Jane Fonda at it again

[john9001]

every protest march tells the enemy to keep on fighting.

this is strange because the war protesters want to end the war but by protesting they make it last longer.

[Toad]

Originally posted by Hazzer
American foriegn policy..jeez...of course this is the country who trained and supplied ho chi min in 1945........of course once good old Ho had helped kick the japs out of indo china you sold him down the river just like the poor old Afghans who once they had kicked theRussians out, you left them to the Taliban.

 

You really are a peach.

Ho in 1945? Heck, we gave Joe Stalin Lend-Lease! This is gonna shock you, so hold on. Times change; Stalin was our ally and then suddenly...he wasn't. When we had a common enemy (Hitler) we were allies; when we defeated our common enemy... we became enemies ourselves.  Amazing, eh? Can you grasp it? Times change.

Ho? Ho played all sides. Ho worked for the  US OSS late in the war. He declared Vietnamese independence in August of 1945...yet he was out front welcoming the French back, signing March 1946 agreement allowing the French forces to return to Vietnam. In July of 1946 Ho's Viet Minh helped the French eliminate what was left of Vietnamese nationalist groups and then...oops...in December 1946, Ho's War of Resistance against the French forces started.

Times change, and so did Ho.

Saddam? Times change.

Say, in the history of the mighty, all-knowing British Empire, you guys ever change your minds about an ally, putting him over into the enemy column? Vice versa?

Or perhaps not; after all, your colonial rule left the world with such perfect divisions of populations that there have been no problem areas in any of your old colonies ever since.

Right? I mean, we can skip over Iraq...that one didn't work out too well for anyone but surely it wasn't the Empire's fault.

We'd best skip over Kashmir too, I guess.

And all those places in Africa where peace has yet to break out in your former colonies.

Ah well, I digress.

Congrats for dissing our history of foreign policy.

You guys were the experts, so we tip our hats in respect.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Hazzer
Domald rumsfeld shook hands with saddam,when you going to poor gasoline on him,or do you prefer stoning,not the same?ok.Just chop off the offending hand.

Exactly what is wrong with today's youth .. everything is grey, there is no black and white and in the grey, the details to the facts of the truth are blurred and distorted. A generation or two and history is completely re-written ...

[ET]

Bobby Fischer got indicted, Jane got a free pass.

[Hazzer]

I would never condone the British Empire,churchill fought wwII to defend this undemocratic institution,and the Americans and Roosevelt wanted it disbanded after the war,which it rightly was,they made sure the pound was replaced post war by the dollar,and Eden's1956 inasion of suez was stopped by eisenhower threatening to pull the plug on the British currency.


Perhaps if Bush had read about the British Empire paticularley are stitching up of the Arabs after 1918,we would not be in the mess we are in now .We were the first to redraw the map of the middle east,we invented Kuwait,the oil don't ya know.


But to get so uptight about a niaeve actress who was used for propaganda purposes,when the real criminals are wearing suits and running the world,beggars belief.

I know history will show who the real villans are,but meanwhile more young men are going to be mutilated or die for a mans vanitiy.

Oh,and churchill advocated the use of mustad gas against Afghan tribes in the 1920's.No the world is not black and white.never has been.

[Hazzer]

By the way,looking at my posts I feel I may be coming across as anti american,I am not.A lot of what is good about todays world comes from the usa.And I have found  Americans I have met warm and freindly.

I. apologise to anyone I may have offended.



But I do believe Questioning are leaders is more important than blind support.

[Saintaw]

But but but... you're all so smart! Who cares? No-one is going to listen to them...right?

[culero]

Originally posted by oboe
snip
I wonder, though, if what Jane Fonda did was actually treasonous, why wasn't she charged and convicted?    Maybe that points to one other thing that is wrong in America--wealth and privilege can mean you are above the law?

And another - having a great-looking butt makes up for a lotta sins (see Sarandon as well )

[Saintaw]

"had" culero... "had", not "have" ... please.

[Gunthr]

Hey, maybe Jane Fonda and John Kerry will meet with Al Qaeda, as they did with the Vietcong years ago, to help find a way to end the war on terrorism.  

[culero]

Originally posted by Saintaw
"had" culero... "had", not "have" ... please.

Remember, I'm so old I am mostly living in my memory now....don't disturb it!

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Yeager
I'd hit it. Figuratively first then literally.

Seriously: It is vital to the nation that dissent be promoted and protected.  Look at it (Fonda, Sarandon, Penn) like the bacteria in our digestive tract....smells like **** but is essential for our survival.  I do not agree with what they say but I must respect it and at a minimum give it consideration.  It is my duty as a citizen.

-Sik

[storch]

Originally posted by Sikboy





-Sik

omg

[Shuffler]

Jane is a traitor..... question is, why is she still alive. I remember a time when traitors were placed against a wall and shot. She is the black sheep of an otherwise good family.

[culero]

Originally posted by Sikboy





-Sik

**** YEAH!