Author Topic: wish for .flaps (Read 461 times)

EagleDNY · « **on:** June 02, 2007, 12:50:20 PM »

Was in the middle of an absolutely fantastic fight early this morning btw my Ki-84 and 2 109G6s - we fought our way down to the deck and were turnin' hard, trying to work the flaps, throttle, and stick all at the same time. We'd turn, nose up, drop flaps, chop throttle, dive back in, over and over again, trying to get that little extra bit of turn that would give us the shot, and listening for my flaps going up automatically (can't really see the indicator in a Ki-84 cockpit).

This was when I WISHED I had the ability to set the position I wanted the flaps in whenever possible. What I was thinking about was .flaps 0=up, 1= 1 notch, 2= 2 notch, etc. command you could set that would automatically DROP the flaps whenever you got slow enough for the deployment. We already get the raised automatically when you get up over the deployment speed (I'd rather they didn't - I'll take the chance on rippin' em off), so it shouldn't be too difficult to get them lowered the same way.

Just a thought.

EagleDNY
$.02

morfiend · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2007, 07:05:19 PM »

Hmmmmm and what if I don't want my flaps down this time.
seems if I set them to deploy at X speed they will always deploy.

Or did I just misunderstand what you were trying to get at.

Bronk · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2007, 07:08:43 PM »

Do you want the comp to work the stick and throttle also?
Sheesh:rolleyes:

Bronk

Kweassa · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2007, 07:54:09 PM »

It's supposed to be tedious.

There's a reason why real life pilots hardly, if ever, used the up/down/up/down/up/down flap fest during actual combat.

Benny Moore · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2007, 08:40:36 PM »

However, flaps usually didn't automatically retract at high speed; and if they did, they usually automatically deployed again once the speed went back down.

The P-38's Fowler flaps would stay down at any speed. As one P-38 pilot said of duelling an Me-109, "I put them at maneuver and left them there, even at high speed. I probably damaged them, but hey - I got the kill."

The F6F Hellcat had a flap with springs which would automatically retract at high speed and, if the lever was down, deploy at low speed.

The N1K George had flaps that would automatically drop at low speeds or high angles of attack, just like slats.

Several other aircraft had maneuvering flaps, including the P-51 and FW-190. Some of them had no speed restriction.

Other aircraft, such as the Spitfire, had two-stage flaps. The Me-109 had hand-cranked flaps on a wheel.

EagleDNY · « **Reply #5 on:** June 03, 2007, 07:26:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
Do you want the comp to work the stick and throttle also?
Sheesh:rolleyes:

Bronk

When I put the flaps down, obviously I've thought about it and want them set that way. The problem is they retract automatically without warning (like some creaking or something that tells me I'm getting near their auto-retraction speed) and I have to keep putting them down again and again. Its a pain, especially in rides where you have to look down into the cockpit in the middle of combat to see how many notches of flap are down.

And since I'm BUSY working the throttle and stick, I'm wishing there we some way for me to undo the auto-retraction since I can't turn it off in the first place.

EagleDNY · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2007, 07:27:45 PM »

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Originally posted by morfiend
Hmmmmm and what if I don't want my flaps down this time.
seems if I set them to deploy at X speed they will always deploy.

Or did I just misunderstand what you were trying to get at.

No, that's right. If you don't want auto-deployment you'd set .flaps 0 and work them manually off the keyboard.

Bronk · « **Reply #7 on:** June 03, 2007, 07:29:05 PM »

Like Kweassa said "It's supposed to be tedious.".
That's what separated the great from the average.

Bronk