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Offline mussie

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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2007, 09:20:37 AM »
PFWAGHHHHHHHHHH

Thats just ****ing AWSOME.....

Gonna have to print it


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Too Soft!
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2007, 09:50:46 AM »
It's not too soft.... he'd flying through clouds!

"too soft".... that's funny!

Nice work on that illustration. Wish I had that kind of talent.

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Re: Too Soft!
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2007, 09:54:51 AM »
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It's not too soft.... he'd flying through clouds!

"too soft".... that's funny!

Nice work on that illustration. Wish I had that kind of talent.


You obviously know nothing about photo editing.
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2007, 10:07:17 AM »
No I don't. Are you a professional photo editor?  If so I might respect your opinion, if not then you're just another guy with an opinion.  Just like me.:D

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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2007, 10:45:18 AM »
No I don't make a living at it, I am a software engineer, but I have been using professional photo editing software for years.

It's not an opinion ... "soft" or "soften" is a term used within editing pictures ... as opposed to "crisp". These techiques are usually applied with a "filter".
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Re: PHoto Editor
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2007, 11:53:42 AM »
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No I don't. Are you a professional photo editor?  If so I might respect your opinion, if not then you're just another guy with an opinion.  Just like me.:D


I agree with Slap. The "soft" appearence gives the picture a "painting" look. Nothing wrong with that. BTW, I am a trained graphic artist.....does that count? :)
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2007, 11:57:13 AM »
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I agree with Slap. The "soft" appearence gives the picture a "painting" look. Nothing wrong with that. BTW, I am a trained graphic artist.....does that count? :)


:aok NB

Biggles ... I wonder what the grey FM2 flying just above the waves would look like ... HINT.
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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2007, 12:15:23 PM »
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:aok NB

Biggles ... I wonder what the grey FM2 flying just above the waves would look like ... HINT.




:D


btw slap, how do you mean it's too soft? i'm still learning how to do it, all of these have really just been practises/learning experiments. if you could give me any tips it would be great ;)

by soft, do you mean that the edges on the plane are too smooth, or that the lighting effects seem a bit too 'airbrushed' ?

if it's the latter, i didn't soften the image, but i did use dodge and burn to add lighting to the plane to make it look better on the background. that soft look is really what i'm aiming for, but if you know a better way, please share, i'd love any tips you can give me :)


i'll see about that FM2 ;)

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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2007, 12:28:36 PM »
by soft, do you mean that the edges on the plane are too smooth, or that the lighting effects seem a bit too 'airbrushed' ?

Bingo !!!

if it's the latter, i didn't soften the image, but i did use dodge and burn to add lighting to the plane to make it look better on the background. that soft look is really what i'm aiming for, but if you know a better way, please share, i'd love any tips you can give me

Dodge and Burn are ways to "soften" too.

Do you have the ability to vary the intensity of "dodge" and/or "burn" when applying them ?

Don't get me wrong ... the picture is beautiful ... I just think that the edges and some of the detail on the plane would look better if they were just a little "crisper". Before the age of digital picture and all these fancy editing tools, photographers use to actually apply vaseline to a clear filter to get the "soft" effect.

I use PhotoShop ($$$) or Gimp (Freeware) which provides all the "tools" (dodge/burn/etc) along with canned "filters". When applying a filter I am given the ability to set the amount of "softening" that I want to apply ... usually via a slider ... which then applies the filter in a "preview" mode so that you can see what it will look like before you really apply the effect.
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2007, 02:16:46 PM »
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by soft, do you mean that the edges on the plane are too smooth, or that the lighting effects seem a bit too 'airbrushed' ?

Bingo !!!

if it's the latter, i didn't soften the image, but i did use dodge and burn to add lighting to the plane to make it look better on the background. that soft look is really what i'm aiming for, but if you know a better way, please share, i'd love any tips you can give me

Dodge and Burn are ways to "soften" too.

Do you have the ability to vary the intensity of "dodge" and/or "burn" when applying them ?

Don't get me wrong ... the picture is beautiful ... I just think that the edges and some of the detail on the plane would look better if they were just a little "crisper". Before the age of digital picture and all these fancy editing tools, photographers use to actually apply vaseline to a clear filter to get the "soft" effect.

I use PhotoShop ($$$) or Gimp (Freeware) which provides all the "tools" (dodge/burn/etc) along with canned "filters". When applying a filter I am given the ability to set the amount of "softening" that I want to apply ... usually via a slider ... which then applies the filter in a "preview" mode so that you can see what it will look like before you really apply the effect.



i'm using photoshop.

that softish look is what i was trying to get, he's flying through the top of the clouds. it isn't so much a real pic, but a practise. i was learning how to use dodge/burn, pen tool and layer masks. the plane is soft because it has a layer of cloud on top of it which is half masked.

it was just a practise shot to learn to use the tools ;)

i'll see about doing you an FM2. which sounds better, on approach to land on CV, or combat shot with a zeke or two?

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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2007, 02:20:48 PM »
combat shot with a zeke or two :aok

Now I understand the reason for the "soft" effect ... didn't realize he was in a cloud.

Keep experimenting !!! Your results for just starting are really nice.
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2007, 02:25:39 PM »
yeah, take a look at the top wing, then at the bottom...

the top is much sharper because of the layer mask, bottom is much softer because he's flying through the top of a cloud :) i'll have to see about the FM2, i need an actor to fly a zeke infront of my FM2 for a decent shot :)

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« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2007, 03:46:20 PM »
Very nice biggles. :aok

Do you think you could do a bare metal 38 by chance? ( "Putt Putt Maru") :D
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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2007, 03:52:06 PM »
very nice! did you do the whole thing in photoshop?

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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2007, 04:44:19 PM »
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very nice! did you do the whole thing in photoshop?



no, the p38 is from the game, cut out and edited. then pasted it onto a background which i'd edited aswell :)

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