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Offline AWMac

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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2007, 11:23:06 PM »
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The following numbers will ruin the country:  2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11.  The following numbers are ironic, based on the previous list of numbers: 12.

Vote for a democrat before a vote for a Mac.


Ruin the Country?

2: 2. Total ellimination of Corporate outsourcing..If you depend upon 3rd World Countries to do American work then you move to that dam Country...yer not American.  

*You have to be kidding me!  You actually belive outsourcing is in the best means for Americans?

4: 4.  American Education.  College is open to all. No tuitions.  If you make the grade you made it!

*Are you saying that the American youth with good grades are not entitled to a higher education?  This is our Future.  Are you so Blind?

5:  5.  We are no longer the Worlds police force.  Collect the funds due to the USA from Germany, France and everyone else and pay back to China.  There is no longer a Favorite trade Nation.  You want to trade with us it's straight across the board!

*I guess you've never really looked at this. Just running yer gums. Research it and open your eyes. It's shocking. Even for PeaHeads.

8:  8. We rebuild America. Starting with the Farmers, Teachers, Firemen and the Police.  

*This would weaken America?  Ask each and every Farmer that has struggled to feed America. Ask every Teacher that has taught America. Ask every Fireman, Policeman that has saved and protected America.  They need to be paid more than what they receive now.

10:  10.  In GOD We Trust is just that!  It's Christmas... NOT Xmas, NOT Seasons Greetings.... There is no Seperation from Church and State.  You don't like it? Leave.

*Is there something you missed in this?

11.  11.  All Medical and Dental are paid from the Goverment.  Gotta look good and feel good. This is America.

*This will truly ruin America... what was I thinking.  

Yeah vote Democrap... Maybe some day they'll have a program, an insight, like Kerry a PLAN.... Vote Democrap, the "Not My Fault Party".  Hillery is the answer.

Vote American!

My pay will go to the deficit. I don't need to feed off Taxpayers.

I'll work 7 days a week also and if you are in Congress, Senate and House you too will work 7 days a week. That's how you serve the people that voted for you.  Can't handle it? Then it's time for new blood.

Free America,

Mac

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« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2007, 01:07:26 AM »
I was in USAF basic in 1983. It amounted to head games for me. We lost our TI for some reason, and the rest of basic was conducted by the team member who was an Airman 1st class...and female to boot. PT was non existant because it was cold some days, too hot the next. For me it was 6 weeks of marching, listening to some yelling, keeping your barracks clean, water moniter, and laundry detail. And the usual stuff UCMJ,history, etc.

   I enjoyed the rest of my 4 years, till the very end when a coffee drinking, cigarette smokin, do nuthin 15 year E4 took over. I did well while in there though, but being in CES, I was among the dregs, back then few were there by assignment, most were discipline cases who got dumped in there. Nowadays they'd probably be shat canned.

   I waited till the week came to re-enlist...making them think I was going to, getting awards,schooling and stuff, I probably would'nt have if they knew I was'nt going to stay in.  Ya, Im a stinka.

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« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2007, 10:22:41 AM »
How did the guy get in at 42? I was under the impression 40 was the ceiling today.

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« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2007, 11:02:06 AM »
2:  The reason companies outsource is to keep costs low.  If they didn't outsource, they'd only be able to retain at most 1/3 of the staff needed to run their facilities, and everything would cost at least 3-4x what they do if they were outsourced.  Add ontop of that another mutiplier for supply and demand of 1.5-2x the cost due to the company not being able to make as much stuff from a smaller staff.

4:  The reason colleges cost money is because they are competitive.  By taking out the competitiveness you are taking out the capitalism of a service industry.  And by doing that you take out the desire to be a better teacher.  If everyone gets into college, then everyone gets a college degree, but the degree wouldn't be worth the paper it's written on.  

5:  By taking out the ability to invest in other countries, and for other countries to invest in us, you hurt us economically.  Take a macro and micro economic course.  It's just basic stuff that everyone should know.  But they don't.

8:  By rebuild, you really mean subsidize.  By subsidizing anything, you hurt it's capitalistic ability, and in turn just prolong it from collapse.  You don't allow it to progress, get better or do better things.  You just make it exist.

10:  Church and state are seperated, in that state can't pick a church to endorse.  To think otherwise is just foolish.  To act otherwise is just socialistic.

11:  Again, the capitalism thing.  By removing the competition you remove the quality, and the drive to get better.



What's sad is that these aren't complicated practices we are talking about.  Yet so many people just can't understand it.
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« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2007, 11:11:43 AM »
The card in question listed persons name,ft jackson sc, unit and a thermogenic corner. It could have been experimental at the time as the army went downhill after Clinton took office. I guess if you were stressed the corner would change colors to shades of mood? Makes me wish I had snagged it and scanned it so some of the nam era guys here could vomit.

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« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2007, 11:29:06 AM »
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2:  The reason companies outsource is to keep costs low.  If they didn't outsource, they'd only be able to retain at most 1/3 of the staff needed to run their facilities,
 


explane that please, if you needed 60 people to run it how can you run it with 20 people, but if 20 people can run it ,why did you hire 60 people?


and if you think you need to outsource to be competive, check out "new balance" shoe company.
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« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2007, 11:39:30 AM »
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How did the guy get in at 42? I was under the impression 40 was the ceiling today.


Last I checked, a few years ago, 40 was the limit. I was looking into going in the WO program, but found out the cap on it was age 28 for pilots.  If they've upped the 40 limit, it's been recent.

Slight sidetrack.... FAA is going to lift the age 60 rule to 65 like the rest of the world.

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« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2007, 12:01:09 PM »
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explane that please, if you needed 60 people to run it how can you run it with 20 people, but if 20 people can run it ,why did you hire 60 people?


and if you think you need to outsource to be competive, check out "new balance" shoe company.


You don't outsource to be competitive, you outsource to keep costs down.  When the cost of something starts to rise way above the cost of what people are willing to pay for it, you have to make a choice.  You either make it cheaper or stop making it.

There's only one product that the laws of supply and demand DO NOT apply to:  Toilet Paper.  Every other product, and every single service acts based of the laws of supply and demand.

So let's say that you have a product X.  You can only sell product X for a maximum of 100 dollars, total (we'll think small for now).  You only have 16 dollars of that 100 dollars to spend on labor, the rest goes to materials, overhead and profit.  You need 4 laborers per X to finish it.  You pay each laborer 4 dollars.

Suddenly the socialistic congress passes a minimum wage law.  You now have to pay each worker 7 dollars.  But you only have 16 dollars to spend on labor.  You fire two workers, and it now takes longer to make the product.  You can either accept it and take a hit on the overhead operating costs, or you can increase your price, or both.  So you increase your price roughly 25 dollars.

Now, we encounter the real problem.  Based off of this one example, half the minimum wage workforce is now out of a job, coupled with every single object cost 25-50% more.  So not only does half the min wage workforce not have any money, EVERYTHING COSTS 50% MORE.

This was a very tame example at that.  I could have easily made a reasonable example that had much more dire effects.
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« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2007, 12:13:14 PM »
you never studied marketing, you tell your prospective customers that your product XXX is much better than cheap product X and they should "upgrade".

how do you think they sell Cadillac, Mercedes, BMW's and Porsche?

also Mac computers.:D

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« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2007, 03:35:45 PM »
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Last I checked, a few years ago, 40 was the limit. I was looking into going in the WO program, but found out the cap on it was age 28 for pilots.  If they've upped the 40 limit, it's been recent.

Slight sidetrack.... FAA is going to lift the age 60 rule to 65 like the rest of the world.


I'm strictly referring to the Army. The other branches are still in the range they have been for decades, late 20's early 30's. The Army max. enlistment age was upped to 40 a couple years ago (couple, few, two or three etc. not sure the exact date but it was not too long ago)

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« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2007, 10:14:26 PM »
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I'm strictly referring to the Army. The other branches are still in the range they have been for decades, late 20's early 30's. The Army max. enlistment age was upped to 40 a couple years ago (couple, few, two or three etc. not sure the exact date but it was not too long ago)


Yup. I was talking about Army as well.  I'm thinking he must have enlisted before 40 and they took two years to write about him.

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« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2007, 10:31:58 PM »
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