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Offline Xargos

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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2007, 07:34:59 PM »
Whatever happened to shooting cowards in the Military?  Too many ******* bleeding hearts in this country.
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2007, 07:40:04 PM »
Muhammad Ali refused to report to the draft, he did jail time. I don't agree with Ali not going into the army, but i respect his taking the punishment for it like a man.

i don't think this guy will go to jail, i think they will give him a dishonorable discharge which will screw up his chances for employment in the real world.
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2007, 07:42:45 PM »
Don't count on that John.  Doing the wrong thing in todays society rewards people like that.

To me there is a BIG difference between joining the military on your own free will and being drafted.
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2007, 07:49:28 PM »
you may be right, a DD on your resume would get you a job at the DNC.
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2007, 08:19:12 PM »
Just a point here. If things go the way I expect and hope they do, watanada won't be addressed as Lt.  He'll be addressed as convict and pvt.
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2007, 08:41:26 PM »
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Just a point here. If things go the way I expect and hope they do, watanada won't be addressed as Lt.  He'll be addressed as convict and pvt.


Insert emotocon clapping hands.....
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2007, 08:45:38 PM »
Looks like he has a strong lineage of radishs in his family.  His father also refused to serve in Viet Nam.

Furthermore, Ehren Watada (and I won't mention rank, because he doesn't deserve the title) commissioned after graduating college in 2003, claiming that after 9/11 he was motivated "out of a desire to protect our country."

prettythangHOLE.  You Commissioned and branched into the United States Army as an Armor Officer, during a war.  What did you think was going to happen.
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2007, 08:56:16 PM »
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Well, they may have rocks in Kansas, but I don't think anyone in the USDB will be breaking any....sorry to disappoint :)


No but he'll get to do cool stuff like mowing Ft. Leavenworth's public grounds in the blazing July sun of Kansas.

He won't be having that much fun.
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2007, 10:07:24 PM »
Ehren Watada is nothing more than a Peni$ Wrinkle....
When things get hard, he disappears...

Worthless Sniveling Embryo....

I made my Privates Tough and Hard...No Wrinkles in my Platoon.

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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2007, 04:06:29 AM »
Alot of very strong words from the non-serving, and from the REMFs.  Like in the Jane Fonda post, the few combat veterans of this board posted subdued messages, none of it filled with the hate of those who have never seen war.

Watada made the mistake of joing the military to protect his country.  Had he joined for other reasons, such as glory seeking, ticket punching, or career advancement, he would not have run into such trouble.
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« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2007, 05:06:33 AM »
irrespectively of the reason behind his decision to join, he did and therefore is legally obligated to fulfill his contract obligations.  what we need is another general patton to handle these few but highly publizided/exploited by the leftist media human interested stories.  a nice sized 12 boot partly inserted into mr watada's putoot is what this situation calls for.
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« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2007, 12:27:03 PM »
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Alot of very strong words from the non-serving, and from the REMFs.  Like in the Jane Fonda post, the few combat veterans of this board posted subdued messages, none of it filled with the hate of those who have never seen war.

Watada made the mistake of joing the military to protect his country.  Had he joined for other reasons, such as glory seeking, ticket punching, or career advancement, he would not have run into such trouble.


His motivation to join is immaterial. He did join. He did swear an oath. It is not a jr officers place to question national policy or to decide what theater he will fight or delpoy in. It was his job to obey the orders of the officers placed over him as long as those orders conform to UCMJ parameters. He disobeyed those orders. It's time for him to accept the penalty for his lack of ability to comply with his obligations.

This statement makes no sense whatsoever.

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Originally posted by AquaShrimp Watada made the mistake of joing the military to protect his country.  Had he joined for other reasons, such as glory seeking, ticket punching, or career advancement, he would not have run into such trouble.


What possible impact does any of these alleged "motivations" have on obeying orders and reporting for duty? How would any of these "motivations" excused his conduct?
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« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2007, 12:47:57 PM »
^ what he said.

Also, here is an exerpt from the oath officers take before becoming commissioned.

that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter

In todays headlines, the defence has been barred by the judge from brining in experts to question the 'legality' of the war to begin with.

This guy is in deep doo doo.  How absurd and what a waste, of all the things he could do, he joins the army instead and pulls this.
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« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2007, 01:26:59 PM »
watada has screwed up on so many different levels here.  There is way more going on than meets the eye.  I bet a book deal is in the works.  Plus both his parents were active protestors against the vietnam war.  I think watada may be a cultivated subverter.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003560267_watada7m0.html

edit: they are reporting today a delay in the trial.  Apparently there is a dispute over evidence and the possibility of a mistrial.
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« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2007, 02:04:34 PM »
Gen Patton would have called him a coward not a "war protester".
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