Interesting Puten Quote

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Viking You may be half Ukrainian by birth Boroda, but you're all Russian in mind. The Ukrainians sure think they're a separate country. As for Stalin … yeah he was insane. His most notable psychosis was extreme paranoia. Many people, especially military officers and high-ranking party members paid with their lives to satisfy his irrational fears.

Zdoroven'ki buly, blya. Russian or Ukrainian in mind - please, STFU and let me decide. I am more Ukrainian then Russian, as everyone says You don;t have any idea about it anyway. Keep your mouth shut - and you have a chance to look clever. Stalin: paranoia and irrational fears. Hmm. He won, didn't he? Maybe he was right? Trotskiy's dreams implemented in China were muuuch worse then what we had here. My Grand-Father was one of the officers (commanders) that you mention. Brigade commander, cavalry. Spent two years in BAMlag, 32-34. All charges removed. He was an Imperial Army leutenant (kornet), 2nd Lieb-Dragoon Pskov Regiment, Riga front, 1916-17, happend to be a Regiment Chief of Staff and then - regiment commander, so it happened. Red Army since 1918, Red Banner Order number 123, regiment commander in 2nd Cavalry Army in Civil War. Fortunately he retired after prison. Most of the officers you mentioned were nothing as commanders in modern war. Like Marshall Bluher who got executed for being deadly drunk during the lake Hasan conflict with Japan.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Boroda


As if it was not like that in the US...

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Miracle.

And when exactly was it like that in the US?

[Boroda]

Viking, too many chars.

[Russian]

wow....can article be any more of anti-Russian propaganda?

[Viking]

Originally posted by Boroda
Keep your mouth shut - and you have a chance to look clever.

My mouth is shut, it's my keyboard you need to silence. Fortunately I live in a free society where I can say and write what I want without fear for my life … Unlike a certain big neighbor to the east in past years, and perhaps even today to some degree.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Viking My mouth is shut, it's my keyboard you need to silence. Fortunately I live in a free society where I can say and write what I want without fear for my life … Unlike a certain big neighbor to the east in past years, and perhaps even today to some degree.

LOL!!! Again, look at my sig. Unlike You, I really can say and do whatever I want. It's Russland, dude. The country that sent it's marines to liberate you in 1945.

[Mace2004]

Originally posted by ghi
imop, Putin is right, and high class diplomat, He said it in polite way, not like Hugo Chavez,
  Last year the starving primitive peoples of N.Corea built a nuke,  few weeks ago chinesse shot down a satelite and Iran goes atomic next, or maybe already has them, and all of this cuz of bully american threats to nations that have nothing to do with 9/11,
   imop a President should be a diplomat, should know to negociate, even with enemy, not just puke words and threats

Every program you just mentioned started well before Bush was even elected.

[ghi]

Originally posted by Boroda
[BUnlike You, I really can say and do whatever I want. It's Russland, dude. The country that sent it's marines to liberate you in 1945. [/B]

  they sent them in Romania also, to liberate and bring 50 years of comunism missery, i did taste it,
    Sometims in think the allies just delayed the birth European Union with 50 years,  Hitler was mad but he wouldn't have lived forever

[Mace2004]

Originally posted by Boroda
My Grand-Father was one of the officers (commanders) that you mention. Brigade commander, cavalry. Spent two years in BAMlag, 32-34. All charges removed.  Fortunately he retired after prison.

Am I reading this right Boroda?  Are you saying your Grandfather was thrown in prison for two years?  And why was that?

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Mace2004 Am I reading this right Boroda?  Are you saying your Grandfather was thrown in prison for two years?  And why was that?

Too tired to answer your other questions, that are very interesting and constructive. I am a late kid, born in 1972, Father, Yuri Anatoliyevich - born in 1926, Grandfather, Anatoliy Nikolayevich, born in 1889. He was sent to a labour camp in 1932, for "Czarist officers coup" that was an obvious nonsence. Father says he was lucky to be in the first line of "repressions". After he was released with all charges abandoned - he was a commander of a horse-breeding farm in Rostov-on-Don region, in a rank of a Major (instead of a Brigade General), there were no "ranks" in Red Army then, only positions. He graduated from Warsaw University in 1914, studied there because he wasn't allowed to go to the Uni in metropolitan Russia - he didn't study in classic Gimnasia, so he could study further only in Polish Kingdom. In 1914 he went to a Cavalry College, studied together with a Serbian prince who later became a Yugoslavian king. Got to the front-line in 1916, and as a young officer became a "regiment adjutant" to prince Kropotkin, who was ignored by officers community for "adultery".  His own errand soldier suddenly turned to be a regiment commeetee chairman in 1917, and A.N. became a regiment commander for a couple of months, until that errand told him to run away quikly - or he'll be killed... Worked in Voronezh as an attorney assistant until Trotskiy's decree to hire all former Imperial officers into Red Army, went up in ranks to a regiment commander (again) and earned a Red Banner order #123 in 1920... Became a Cavalry brigade commander by early 1930s, then - sentenced for imaginary "coup". At the same time my other relatives served in Volunteer Army on the other side, Granny's Father had to emigrate  to France, where he died in 1969... Family story. So it goes... I am the first "civilian" in a family, not an officer, in 3 generations, on both Father's and Mother's sides. When I went to MSTU in 1989 I thought I'll wear a uniform after graduation, I studied to become a weapon engineer. Interesting times.

[straffo]

Ukrainian are Polish


Happy new year Boroda

[ramzey]

Originally posted by ghi
they sent them in Romania also, to liberate and bring 50 years of comunism missery, i did taste it,
    Sometims in think the allies just delayed the birth European Union with 50 years,  Hitler was mad but he wouldn't have lived forever

IIRC Romanians where a part of nazi's army invade Russia?right?

[VOR]

Hi again, Boroda!

[Mace2004]

Originally posted by Boroda
Too tired to answer your other questions, that are very interesting and constructive. I am a late kid, born in 1972, Father, Yuri Anatoliyevich - born in 1926, Grandfather, Anatoliy Nikolayevich, born in 1889. He was sent to a labour camp in 1932, for "Czarist officers coup" that was an obvious nonsence. Father says he was lucky to be in the first line of "repressions". After he was released with all charges abandoned - he was a commander of a horse-breeding farm in Rostov-on-Don region, in a rank of a Major (instead of a Brigade General), there were no "ranks" in Red Army then, only positions. He graduated from Warsaw University in 1914, studied there because he wasn't allowed to go to the Uni in metropolitan Russia - he didn't study in classic Gimnasia, so he could study further only in Polish Kingdom. In 1914 he went to a Cavalry College, studied together with a Serbian prince who later became a Yugoslavian king. Got to the front-line in 1916, and as a young officer became a "regiment adjutant" to prince Kropotkin, who was ignored by officers community for "adultery".  His own errand soldier suddenly turned to be a regiment commeetee chairman in 1917, and A.N. became a regiment commander for a couple of months, until that errand told him to run away quikly - or he'll be killed... Worked in Voronezh as an attorney assistant until Trotskiy's decree to hire all former Imperial officers into Red Army, went up in ranks to a regiment commander (again) and earned a Red Banner order #123 in 1920... Became a Cavalry brigade commander by early 1930s, then - sentenced for imaginary "coup". At the same time my other relatives served in Volunteer Army on the other side, Granny's Father had to emigrate  to France, where he died in 1969... Family story. So it goes... I am the first "civilian" in a family, not an officer, in 3 generations, on both Father's and Mother's sides. When I went to MSTU in 1989 I thought I'll wear a uniform after graduation, I studied to become a weapon engineer. Interesting times.

Very interesting information Boroda, as you've said often your experience is very different from those of us in the US.  Our history seems much "simpler" than yours.  I know what you mean of assuming you'd wear a uniform, it does become a family "tradition".  My Father, Uncle, both Brothers and I have all been Naval Officers.  My Son graduates from college in a few months and get's his commission as an Ensign and then is off to flight training.  My daughter just started college this year and she'll get her commission in 2010.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by ghi
imop, Putin is right, and high class diplomat, He said it in polite way, not like Hugo Chavez,
  Last year the starving primitive peoples of N.Corea built a nuke,  few weeks ago chinesse shot down a satelite and Iran goes atomic next, or maybe already has them, and all of this cuz of bully american threats to nations that have nothing to do with 9/11,
   imop a President should be a diplomat, should know to negociate, even with enemy, not just puke words and threats

 .. did Bush do this before or after he melted the polar caps?  lol LOL

like this would never have happened if the US didn't have to go to war against a non complying UN resolution Iraq ... sure it would not have...

the more the entire region shows just how unstable it really becoming, the more I feel we need a HUGE military presence based in Iraq.

ps

Russia is against the US in the beginning of the end but comes around and assists the powers of righteousness to defeat the dragon in the end.. But by then I do not think it'll be peaches and cream for many of us left behind...