Skin Request: Spitfire mk V

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Hazzer
Guppy,what month in '41 did they drop the earth/green scheme.Was it when they changed the large yellow roundels?

Just wondering:)

p.s.I would love a 311 Squadron spit from any period

August 1941 was when the RAF went to the Gray/Green Camo.

The RAF went to the different roundels with the narrower yellow band in May of 42.

[Ball]

Originally posted by Guppy35
And a Spit Ia that survives to this day in the same color scheme

IWM Lambeth?

[Kermit de frog]

Fencer, I feel your pain.



I'd like to help him too, but guppy won't share that headache medicine with me.

[Kev367th]

Think the main thing is this -

Yup we could fill all the available Spitfire slots (for all marks) with basically the same skin with different squadron codes.

What I watch out for is unusual schemes, (as long as they saw operational use), like the Pink IX, the Blue V, the currently is progress White IX.
Basically anything different from the run of the mill schemes.

One exception I make is for ones with Polish, Czech etc pennants, or named ones, or the very rare one's with nose art (i.e. the RCAF Vb ingame).

Thats just my take on it, wide variation rather than just different squadron codes.

[Fencer51]

I would add to Kev's list aircraft of significant individuals such as Douglas Bader or Johnny Johnson.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Ball
IWM Lambeth?

Almost missed this.  AR213 is being restored to flight.  It was a fairly well known flyer for a while but is being restored all the way back to Spitfire Ia standards.  It previously flew with 4 blade prop, wrong windscreen etc.  They're taking it back to factory fresh and last i heard it will probably be in it's OTU codes that it wore when Ginger Lacy flew it as a 'bounce" aircraft for the fledgling pilots.

If we're lucy it will carry the markings Ginger had on it.  AR313 was one of the last Spit Is built so it never saw combat.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Fencer51
I would add to Kev's list aircraft of significant individuals such as Douglas Bader or Johnny Johnson.

YQ-D that I posted above is Johnnie Johnson's bird that he flew with 616 shortly after Bader went down.

Bader's Bus Company
Still Running

Was added to a number of those Spits.  There's a photo of JEJ in one marked like that.

[AWwrgwy]

Lookie lookie



It was there all along.


(I think somebody said that)


wrngway

[Serenity]

Originally posted by AWwrgwy
Lookie lookie



It was there all along.


(I think somebody said that)


wrngway

Like ive said before. THats ONE default skin. It would be nice to see one more similar. We have MANY green-grey, why not ONE more brown green?

[Karnak]

Why would another Spitfire V that looked exactly the same other than the letters on the fuselage help you?  That is the part we aren't getting.

You can hardly ever make them out in the game as it is.  From the cockpit the two skins would appear identical.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Karnak
Why would another Spitfire V that looked exactly the same other than the letters on the fuselage help you?  That is the part we aren't getting.

You can hardly ever make them out in the game as it is.  From the cockpit the two skins would appear identical.

Because he was caught in a mistake and can't admit it.
Now to save face he will grasp at any straw.

Reynolds let it go.

Bronk

[Serenity]

Originally posted by Karnak
Why would another Spitfire V that looked exactly the same other than the letters on the fuselage help you?  That is the part we aren't getting.

You can hardly ever make them out in the game as it is.  From the cockpit the two skins would appear identical.

Because you really CAN tell the difference. I often fight VERY close in. Hell, I avoid firing at more than 200 yards. You can really see your opponents skin, and you are often judged accordingly. If I pwn a white Bf-109K-4, I think "n00b needs to learn the plane a bit more" whereas if I nail a green one, I think "Poor guy made a mistake. Oh well, I was damned lucky for that kill". Its a subconcious thing, but most people you see in default skins are two-weekers from my experience. Everyone has a favorite skin for their most common aircraft. For example:

Spitfire mk I: 54 sqdn
Spitfire mk IX: 329 sqdn
Bf-109E-4: Jg3
Bf-109 G6: Jg52
Bf-109 G14: Jg54
Bf-109K-4: Jg(cant quite remember, I dont fly the K-4 often)
B-17G: 303BG/359BS BN-U, SN: 4239050
Boston III: (I have two I juggle at the moment)
Bf-110C-4/b: ZG76

thats just a small list. But flying a custom skin proves, at LEAST, that you are a subscriber. Thats just the argument for a custom skin. As to this particular style of skin:

Brown/Green made the Spitfire famous. During the Battle of Britain, thats what they flew. To this day, that scheme is a bit more emotional. It is reminiscant of the time when Britain's survival was severly questioned. as it stands we have virtually NO skins like that. Both mk VIII planes appear to have RAAF roundels, and other than that only the mk V and I have that skin. There are so many grey-green, there needs to be more brown green to even things out, for folks like me who fly planes not because of their capabilities, but for sentimental reasons. Thats why. I made no mistake by requesting this. I stand by what I said in the begining.

[Guppy35]

Battle of Britain was fought with Spit Is and very few IIs.  If you are asking for Spit I skins then it's going to make sense cause they didn't use the gray/green outside of OTUs when they were no longer front line combat or ASR Spit IIs.

We only have 2 Spit I skins.  Both are B of B skins, 54 and 74 Squadrons.  If you are 'sentimental' about the B of B then fly the Spit I in the brown green.  Or fly the Spit V in brown/green and pretend it's a 92 Squadron Spitfire Ib.

You have to understand the scale on which the Spit V fought which is covered wonderfully by the skinners, and Kev in particular.

We've got Malta based, Italy based USAAF stuff, North Africa, pre-August 41 ETO and post 41 ETO when they changed to gray/green.  RAAF PTO etc.

We could still use a Russia based Spit V and a camo RAAF bird, and potentially a good North Africa RAF bird just to even things out.

In all honesty, considering it's use, it would make more sense to ask for more gray/green Spit Vs cause they saw more service in those colors.  As it is, I think we have a wonderful selection of skins for the V and adding another brown/green makes less sense then the 3 others I mentioned if we are to get more V skins.

I know Spits are your passion at the moment, but you've been changing on the fly from B17s, to 109s now to Spit Vs.  I'm guessing you'll find another passion long before we get more skins.

Not meant as a shot btw, just an observation as your passion for whichever plane is clear, but seems to be relatively short lived.  It wasn't that long ago that I coulda swore you were 303rd BG B17s for life and that died fast

[Guppy35]

Regarding your comments on the Spit VIII.  Remember that did not see ETO service.  Because it was tropicalized from the start it was meant for overseas use, where the Spit IX was initially kept at home in England, although some made it to the MTO.

So the colors you'll get on the VIII are going to be based on the theaters of war it operated, which was the MTO, CBI and PTO with the RAF, USAAF and RAAF.

Personally I'd like to see a VIII in a gray/green camo to go with the IX and 16 on the off chance you fly with those Spits around.  At the moment we don't have one, but it was not the prevalant scheme for the VIII so I can live with that.

And of course the V did not see service in the B of B so to use that as your example doesn't work.  It works for the Spit I obviously.

[Guppy35]

A few different VIIIs we could use

417 RCAF.  They also flew Vs in these colors.  I've had a framed poster of 4 Spit Vb trops from the Imperial War Museum up on the wall since 1980.  I'd love to see it in game along with the 417 VIII