Originally posted by zorstorer
He is asking about the OBJ ratings, not the ENY ratings.
It is a very good point.
Plus the ENy needs to be looked at for the various birds.
For example why should the ENY be LOWER for a 190F8, and the 190A8 has a HIGHER ENY?
Ack-Ack,
Zorstorer is correct. I'm not debating ENY this time--I tried that already. This is simply about OBJ ratings. I understand the OBJ for some of the dedicated dive bombers, as they're slow and relatively unprotected. But, a P-47D11 shouldn't have the same OBJ as a D-40 or N. Looks like all the fighters have an OBJ of 10, except the F4U-1C--which I was told was set because of the cannon. So, my argument is based on (1) number of hard points capable of carrying ordnance, and (2) cannon's vs. .50 cal or lower. Its hard to quickly strafe down a radar or ord, or even field guns with .50 cal. Its also hard to do lots of damage with only 1 500 lb bomb (or metric equivalent). But, for example, a Bf-110G has the same OBJ rating as a F4U-1, when the difference in ord and direct fire firepower is staggeringly different. A quick burst of 20mm will kill an M3 or LVT/PT boat, but .50 cal takes much more hits. Its convincing by looking at the typical plane set for field captures when missions are posted for countries. Its always a number of 110G's with the heavy cannon package and Niki's with bombs. A Niki, for example, carries almost the same firepower as a F4U-1C and yet has a OBJ rating of 10, whereas the F4U-1C has a 5. Seems to me all the heavy air to ground hitters should have an OBJ of 5, either as a consequence of large ordnance capacities, multiple cannon, or both. Or, you could scale it the other way, with aircraft that carry very little ordnance and .50 cal main batteries have a 15 or something to that effect. My intent is to argue for a significant difference between those aircraft that can strike air-to-ground swiftly or hard, and those aircraft that cannot. For a lesser used example, why should a Spit 5 have the same OBJ as a Spit 16, when the Spit 16 carries much more cannon rounds, and has the capability of carrying a semi-large bomb load? I always enjoy watching 190's or Typh's make a quick burst from 1K out to take out field guns, then reaping the rewards of the devastating cannon rounds where they are basically untouchable. They jink quickly away without taking any damage while nickel and diming field guns with relative impunity. Don't necessarily think this would force a tactical change, as I said previously, but merely reward those aircraft that have a tougher time of accomplishing the same results.
For whatever its worth...
