Author Topic: Spanish 109F (wierd but true!) (Read 1431 times)

Krusty · « **on:** February 20, 2007, 01:19:09 AM »

Spain received many aircraft from Germany under the Bär program, including Ju88s, 109Fs, and panzer tanks. They only received a small number of these 109Fs, but receive them they did! The idea was to have Spain help out in the MTO, but this didn't really develop as intended.

My Picture hangar is full (from all the progress screenshots from all the skins waiting approval -- I can't clear them off until the next skin pack is released!!! ARGH!) so I'll attach these one at a time.

I was inspired to do this by a Spanish model builder that did the research and built a scale model with this paint scheme. I e-mailed him and asked him a few questions and got some info in return.

Krusty · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2007, 01:20:42 AM »

It's not really done, just fleshing out some camo lines here.

Krusty · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2007, 01:21:53 AM »

Color profile from one of the books used by the Spanish model builder. The 6 is the wrong type, as in a wartime photo you can just barely make out part of the 6 and it's more like the style of "135".

Krusty · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2007, 01:22:37 AM »

The wartime photo

Krusty · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2007, 01:23:32 AM »

Part of the 6. I'm going to do it like the 5 but with rounded edges (and a flat join on the upper beam)

Krusty · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2007, 01:24:31 AM »

And a shot of the model this Spanish guy built after doing all the research. I'm using this as inspiration for the upper camo, but am not adhereing to it 100%

Krusty · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2007, 01:29:12 AM »

Not sure how to do the object.txt file. They didn't really break it up into squadrons in Spain, did they? The 6 meant the type of fighter and the 135 meant the 135th fighter received of that type (starting at 1 with the earliest 109 variants during the Spanish Civil War, I think?)

I was thinking of putting "6*135 by Krusty" but wanted to ask opinions first.

"6/135 Spanish by Krusty" works too, but might be misleading because it's not 6th sqn, 135th group.

Treize69 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2007, 01:54:30 AM »

Might wanna look into it a bit more (though I have no idea where to start), the Romanians numbered theres the same way for the most part, but they were still broken down into units, so I'd have to assume that the Spanish probably did the same thing.

The 109G2 "White 7" for example was both the 7th 109G2 received by the ARR and assigned to Grupul 7 Vanatoare (strictly coincidence).

I have to take your word for how they numbered theirs as I know nothing about the Spanish AIr Force, but looking at how many contemporary nations numbered their aircraft reseived from the Germans, my first assumption in looking at it was that it was the 135th 109F and was assigned to the 6th squardon, or something to that effect.

Krusty · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2007, 11:56:59 AM »

They started during the spanish civil war. The early prototypes started with 1. The 109Bs were in the 50s, the Cs started somewhere in the 60s, the 109Es went from the 90s to the 100s, so the 135 seems about right for 109Fs.

devil956 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2007, 02:04:38 PM »

For Spain! it must be done:aok

TheThang · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2007, 02:09:27 PM »

Spain has a cool airforce symbol. Anyways, good work, looks great.

Treize69 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 20, 2007, 02:45:58 PM »

Ah, ok, totally different then. Well, it was an idea anyway, never said it was a good one.

Krusty · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2007, 03:17:00 PM »

More (downsized a bit so it fits in forum attachment)

Krusty · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2007, 03:18:38 PM »

Krusty · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2007, 07:26:31 PM »

Hrm... I think the wing roundels are too small.. I'll have to fix that.