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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2007, 08:17:24 AM »
If I had to choose I would not vote.   Both are liberal socialists who feel the constitution is meant for their personal interpretation or.. to simply be ignored.

I would not vote for either of them.. they are both evil.  They both want to harm my rights and use my money to do it.

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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2007, 11:33:09 AM »
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White limousine libs have been dying for a suitable black candidate to fawn over--they think Obama is the Second Coming---funny thin is ACTUAL black folks don't view him as one of 'them'


One of the things that kinda bothers me is this. There have been 3 prominent black people in high positions of the govt. Obama is one, Powel another and of course Rice. It seems none of them are acceptable to the "typical black voter" from the media reports. I kind of wonder exactly what or who would be acceptable? Sharpton?!?!?!?! :O
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2007, 11:38:33 AM »
big al for president, oh yeaa.

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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2007, 11:41:22 AM »
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hussein is now the darling of the hollywood set.  he's the best of all worlds he's black and a mohammadan.
What exactly does this mean?
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2007, 11:46:53 AM »
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What exactly does this mean?


it means many of the hollywood people have already been supporting him, raising money, holding rallys, making statements of support, etc.

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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2007, 12:31:45 PM »
If he's talking about Obama, then there are a couple things I don't understand.  Hussein is his middle name, right?  Why put the emphasis on it, unless it's to link him to Saddam Hussein?   Hillary Clinton's middle name is Diane, but he doesn't seem to be using that, so the motive is suspect.  Next, why does he say he's mohammaden?  He's christian.  Is this ignorance or willful malice?
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2007, 12:41:35 PM »
Right now (according to the polls I've read) the people most likely to be elected are in this order...

1. Rudi Guiliani
2. Hillary Clinton
3. Barak Obama

The really interesting thing is, all are in almost complete agreement on the hot button social issues.

I'm afraid Rudi is unelectable once his 'morals' are made known.

Y'all better get used to saying "Madam President"

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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2007, 12:42:32 PM »
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One of the things that kinda bothers me is this. There have been 3 prominent black people in high positions of the govt. Obama is one, Powel another and of course Rice. It seems none of them are acceptable to the "typical black voter" from the media reports. I kind of wonder exactly what or who would be acceptable? Sharpton?!?!?!?! :O


I'd go with M.L.K. Too bad he's dead.

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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2007, 12:56:06 PM »
Usually there is at least one candidate in each party before the primaries who is not so bad, but that isn't enough of a party hack to get the nod.

This time around the whole field pretty much sucks.

McCain may be the lesser of 6 evils...

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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2007, 01:17:24 PM »
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Right now (according to the polls I've read) the people most likely to be elected are in this order...

1. Rudi Guiliani
2. Hillary Clinton
3. Barak Obama

The really interesting thing is, all are in almost complete agreement on the hot button social issues.

I'm afraid Rudi is unelectable once his 'morals' are made known.

Y'all better get used to saying "Madam President"



If morals were that important why would you vote for Hillary?

Besides who doesn't know everything about Guiliani already?

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« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2007, 03:23:01 PM »
Did Hillary screw around on Bill?

I think you need to read up.

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Rudy Giuliani's first wife was also his third cousin. When he divorced her, surrounded by the most sordid rumors, he quickly met up with Donna Hanover, once a newswoman in Miami, then New York. Giuliani, the on the make US Attorney, who played fast and loose with the law and who's publicity seeking indictments fell apart like a East German Trabant, was largely elected with her help. She "humanized" him, as they say.

His repayment for her support?

He took up with a ungainly young woman, Cristyne Lategano, who went from selling sneakers to alienating the NY press corps as his press aide. He was caught buying her a pricey skirt on Madison Ave, New York's Gold Coast or Rodeo Drive, by the Daily News. The second Mrs. Giuliani was none too pleased.

They say the explosion came one Father's Day, where the workaholic Giuliani and his "loyal" aide were caught by an enraged Hanover, who soon stopped using her married name. Giuliani was not particularly subtle for a married man, much less a politician. Pictures of Giuliani and his aide were everywhere, Chinese restaurants, pizza places, the common meetinghalls of New York life.

Which would have been fine, if he were single. One time, reporters saw them drink from the same can and eat from the same slice of pizza. Now, being a single man, I can only imagine the reaction my wife would have if I did that. Sharing food is an intimate act, I would think.

The relationship continued under the snickers of the media, who never informed the public that their mayor was using their money to philander on his wife. But at some point in the summer of 1999, Giuliani dumped his aide and somehow, she wound up with a job as New York City's head of the Convention and Visitor's Bureau, forcing out the previous loyalist who had been given the $250K job.

By the spring of 2000, there was a new woman in Rudy's life, Judith Nathan. She had been camoflauged in the mayor's entourage from the fall of 1999 on. No one knew who she was, at least not obviously. But, as Giulani's bout with cancer became news, Nathan, who was trained as a nurse, was seen to have been accompanying him to doctor's meetings. Meanwhile, his wife was left clueless as to her husband's new infidelity.


Yea, he's a gem.

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« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2007, 03:27:41 PM »
I dunno, MT.

Like Mightyboy said, what don't we know about Rudy already? The drag photos? His philandering? All known. His life is an open book at this point.

Same can be said for Hillary. Not much new to learn there.

There is a change worth noting, however; Hollywood does seem to be shifting its alliance. There's an interesting article at Time.com  related to the growing Clinton/Obama friction. A couple of quotes are very telling:

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Geffen, a big fund raiser for the Clintons in the past, called Obama "inspirational" and dismissed Hillary Clinton as "overproduced and overscripted." As for her husband, Geffen suggested that his bad-boy days are not behind him: "I don't think anybody believes that in the last six years, all of a sudden Bill Clinton has become a different person." And to top it off, he said this about the two of them: "Everybody in politics lies, but they do it with such ease, it's troubling."


Ouch. Very ouch, baby.

Here's another:

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Former Vice President Al Gore has privately told friends that his familiarity with the Clintons' hardball campaign style is one of the reasons he would be leery of making a run against Hillary. Geffen told Dowd he expected a brutal primary because the Clinton "machine is going to be very unpleasant and unattractive and effective."


That comes from a man who knows. What it tells me is that the left isn't so much in love with the Clintons as it is in winning, and the first time someone with a little real charisma comes around, they begin to turn their backs on the tired and tawdry tale that is the Clintons. It may be an indication of another relevant point: the left recognizes the virulent hatred conservatives feel toward Hillary personally and how unifying that hatred could damage the Democratic push for the White House.

It's a calculated risk either way.

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« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2007, 03:29:28 PM »
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Did Hillary screw around on Bill?
 


who was vince foster?

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« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2007, 03:40:06 PM »
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Ahh but neither of you is answering the question.

If you only had the two. and had to choose either one or the other. Which would it be?
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« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2007, 03:50:04 PM »
canada is too cold, but with global warming....hmmm.