Thunk! Home Defense Revisited

[lazs2]

vor..  some may be smart...  I knew more than I ever should have tho and never met one who was not lazy and impulsive and willing to believe anything that sounded good to him.

also... the smart ones aren't burglars or the ones who break into homes or assault people for cash.

lazs

[john9001]

Originally posted by VOR
Also, I think you might be underestimating the thought process of the average crook. They aren't all crackheads. Some, in fact, are quite smart and very good at what they do.

lawyers, investment bankers, politicians, real estate developers.

[moot]

All bulletproof.

[Jackal1]

Just curious. I know a lot here frequent the range and does a lot of target shooting/plinking, etc.
Who practices identifying/shooting in low to no light conditions?

[Halo]

At our indoor range the lighting can vary quite a bit.  I often put the target in the dimmest places, which probably approximate shadows in a large room with one side light on.  

Long ago in the Air Force we did some total dark shooting at about 7 yards to show how difficult that is but also that it is doable.  I particularly remember how the first shot or two was mainly to facilitate aiming the next shots by the flash of the first shots, which was considerable.

[storch]

Originally posted by Jackal1
Just curious. I know a lot here frequent the range and does a lot of target shooting/plinking, etc.
Who practices identifying/shooting in low to no light conditions?

very good point.  in my case never.

[lazs2]

There is only one problem with shooting in total or near dark...  after the first shot you will be blind for 20-60 seconds depending on your eyesight.

lazs

[Halo]

It would seem that way, but we used the muzzle flash to provide illumination so we could use the iron sights to see the target however sketchily.

Haven't done that for a long time, but I remember that worked and we did manage to hit the targets in subsequent shots but not so much the first shot in total darkness.

That was with GI 1911 .45s.

Doubt if that would work with ported barrels though -- too much straight up flash instead of forward flash.  

Can somebody who shoots with ported barrels enlighten us, so to speak?

[Vulcan]

Ya know if I was a burglar in the states I'd just throw a tear gas grenade in yer house and be done with it. Or maybe a that crazy ruskie sleeping gas.

[Halo]

Ha!  It is to laugh.  Deluxe outside light sensors include CBR countermeasures that prevent launch of unauthorized projectiles, confirm hostile substances, incapacitate intruders, and dial 911.

Oh yeah?  I'll bet you all the numbers in the universe.

Yeah?  I'll bet you twice all the numbers in the universe.

You can't have more numbers than all the numbers in the universe.

Yeah?  I'll bet you three times all the numbers in the universe.

 

[storch]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Ya know if I was a burglar in the states I'd just throw a tear gas grenade in yer house and be done with it. Or maybe a that crazy ruskie sleeping gas.

you gotta be vulcan kidding me.  do you know what we vulcan do to tear gassers here?

[Vulcan]

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[lazs2]

I don't know.. with my magnum revolvers and short shotguns and 45 with hydrashok ammo.. the flash makes me blind for a bit..  you do get a glimpse of the target and if it doesn't move I guess you could put another round in that direction.

lazs

[john9001]

i don't like shooting into the dark, i like to identify my targets, just turn on the light and say "make my day".

[Halo]

Absolutely.  I was recalling a night training exercise under controlled range conditions.  No way I would fire at anything unless it was positively confirmed as hostile life threatening.  

So as you can surmise, with that normal hesitation and prudence, I would be terminated quickly by any halfway competent aggressor retaining the initiative.