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Offline Masherbrum

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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2007, 08:25:53 AM »
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While the Gripens are great they should keep those old 21s as well. Get the French or Israeli to upgrade them with modern radar and weapons, and those MiG’s would be great interceptors for such a small country as Croatia.





Mig 21 - 1385 mph (Mach 1.8)
Gripen - Mach 2

The Gripen exceeds the Mig 21 in performance and can stop within 800m.
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2007, 08:36:37 AM »
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Mig 21 - 1385 mph (Mach 1.8)
Gripen - Mach 2

The Gripen exceeds the Mig 21 in performance and can stop within 800m.
Top speeds like that are irrelevant.  In RL you very rarely see anything above M 1.2.  I'm sure the Gripen can out turn the MiG but the biggest tactical advantage are in the weapons and range.
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2007, 10:22:19 AM »
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Top speeds like that are irrelevant.  In RL you very rarely see anything above M 1.2.  I'm sure the Gripen can out turn the MiG but the biggest tactical advantage are in the weapons and range.


So, it is possible that the Mig 21 could get "up to speed" (say M 1.2) faster?

Not being confrontational, just trying to learn something new I guess.
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2007, 10:50:23 AM »
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Mig 21 - 1385 mph (Mach 1.8)
Gripen - Mach 2

The Gripen exceeds the Mig 21 in performance and can stop within 800m.


There is something wrong with the math on your MiG speed figures. The F-16 is a Mach 2 fighter and has a top speed of 1320 mph. I believe your Mach 1.8 figure is calculated for sea level atmosphere, not at altitude where the speed of sound is slower. The MiG-21Bis (the main production version) has a top speed of Mach 2.05. Earlier versions had top speeds of up to as much as Mach 2.3.

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While the Gripens are great they should keep those old 21s as well.




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Originally posted by Mace2004
I'm sure the Gripen can out turn the MiG but the biggest tactical advantage are in the weapons and range.


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Originally posted by Viking
Get the French or Israeli to upgrade them with modern radar and weapons, and those MiG’s would be great interceptors for such a small country as Croatia.
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