Author Topic: P51c (Read 719 times)

KINGcobra · « **on:** February 28, 2007, 12:39:09 PM »

all,
you all know about the P51D with the 6 .50cals im the game but their were two other versions on this aircraft.It was still the P51D fraim but different gun packages.The early 51 had 4wing mounted .30cals and 2 nose mounted .50cals.Now the P51 you all know have 6 wing mounted .50cals, this is the latest P51 gun package you all know about.but their is 1 version of the P51. It is called the P51C.now the C version was the in between the other two.the P51C had 4 wing mounted 20mms:O .Now we all know the US during WW2 wasent a big fan of the 20mms.the 51C modle was around for a short while.the US dident keep it around beacuse the 20mms slowed it down during climbing and while turning with greman aircraft.
It would be cool to see the other gun packages of the P51The 51C may be perked but it would be sweet to see and the 51 with the .30cals and .50cals would be maybe higher point's if you get kills in it(.30cals are about the size of 303's)

i must add that the british 51 had the canon's...

Krusty · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2007, 12:41:02 PM »

It's gotta be a troll....

KINGcobra · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2007, 12:48:39 PM »

im trying to post a picture of 1 but i can copy it but i cant past it on the post...

Krusty · « **Reply #3 on:** February 28, 2007, 01:02:14 PM »

Not biting.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #4 on:** February 28, 2007, 02:24:44 PM »

P-51C did not have 20mm cannons. The RAF version the Mustang IA had 4x 20mm Hispano cannons. The A-36 Apache, I believe also had the 20mm cannons since it was primarily a ground attack plane due to shoddy performance above 15,000ft. The regular USAAF P-51s (B,C,D,H) all carried .50 calibers, either in 4 or 6 gun packages depending on the model.

ack-ack

Guppy35 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 28, 2007, 02:50:18 PM »

P51C was Dallas built P51B. No difference between the two other then place of production.

A36 Apache did not have cannons.

Limited number of early 51As had 4 20mm cannons but it wasn't that common.

Might as well as for a P51K if you seriously believe HTC should add another 51 and call it the 51C.

P51C production was continued in Dallas for a time to make good on contracts with the RAF for Mustang IIIs. Of course Mustang IIIs were P51B/Cs with 4 50 cals.

Mustang IVs were P51D/Ks with 6 50 cals

Krusty · « **Reply #6 on:** February 28, 2007, 04:02:25 PM »

Guppy, I think the 200 cannon-armed planes were "P-51" with no "A" at the end. I seem to recall something about P-51 without any suffix. They still served. Some in recon roles, some in ground attack.

Hell if we ever got that, it'd be worth 60 perks or so, IMO. We probably won't ever see it.

Puck · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2007, 04:39:00 PM »

PERK THE GREMAN AIRCRAFT!

Bronk · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2007, 04:49:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Guppy, I think the 200 cannon-armed planes were "P-51" with no "A" at the end. I seem to recall something about P-51 without any suffix. They still served. Some in recon roles, some in ground attack.

Hell if we ever got that, it'd be worth 60 perks or so, IMO. We probably won't ever see it.

Just how axis bias are you?

Bronk

Stoney74 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:11:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Guppy, I think the 200 cannon-armed planes were "P-51" with no "A" at the end. I seem to recall something about P-51 without any suffix. They still served. Some in recon roles, some in ground attack.

Hell if we ever got that, it'd be worth 60 perks or so, IMO. We probably won't ever see it.

Especially since the early P-51 performance was pretty sorry. Kind of like a hopped-up P-40 with 4X20mm. Its one of those miracles of all time that a beauracracy like the USAAF developed a plane for one role, and then totally reversed itself with the speed and focus that put the P-51B in the fighter role.

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2007, 08:47:14 PM »

P-51K was a P-51D with a different prop. The new prop caused the aircraft to have worse performance, with a reduced top speed.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2007, 09:33:55 PM »

While North American (NAA) had developed the prototype quickly, the first stage of production moved along more slowly. The first NA-73 production aircraft did not fly until April 23, 1941, six months after NA-73X. It carried no weapons and was kept by NAA for testing and development. The second production airplane (armed with four .30's and four .50's) arrived in Liverpool in October, 1941 - a year after the prototype's first flight.

Nonetheless, the Mustang was so promising that in late 1941 the RAF ordered another 300 and the USAAF 150. As the exigencies of war demanded, 93 of these 150 (factory designated NA-91) ended up in British service, as Mustang IA's, equipped with four 20mm cannon. The remaining 57, equipped with four .50 caliber machine guns, and known as P-51's, ended up in US service.

Krusty · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2007, 10:07:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
Just how axis bias are you?

Bronk

Just how biased are you against me? This thread has nothing to do with what nationality made it. Get your head outta yer arse.

Bronk · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2007, 10:25:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Just how biased are you against me? This thread has nothing to do with what nationality made it. Get your head outta yer arse.

I just can't understand how an Allison powerd , 4 cannon p51 needs a perk?
Please explain.
We have tiffy that have 4 hissy and probably faster.
Hurry2c 4 hissy that can out tun it.
How about an La7 that outperforms it in all aspects.
190 d9 that could run at will from it.
109 g14/k4 that could do the same also.
Nikki 4 cannon kill it in the vert and out turn it.

Please tell us why an Allison powered 4 cannon 51 would need a perk.

Bronk

Edit: The export Mustang 1A has max of 1150 hp. Start taking the fight up and it starts to lose it's hp.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 02, 2007, 02:55:52 AM »

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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
P-51K was a P-51D with a different prop. The new prop caused the aircraft to have worse performance, with a reduced top speed.

Performance wasnt different, but it did suffer problems with the hollow prop blades of the Aeroproducts propeller causing vibration in some. Canopy shape was slightly different too with the Inglewood produced Ds having a more rounded shape while the Dallas built had a flatter shape towards the back to give it less distorted view..

My point in saying D/K was that it looks the same, performs the same but was produced at two different plants.

Ks and Ds were mixed in units as were Bs and Cs.