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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2007, 04:26:31 PM »
Wrap up that link in [img ] and [/img ] tags and you're ready to roll. As for the firepower on that tank, that's questionable.
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2007, 04:31:25 PM »
couldnt get that pic in the img code

but here ya go:D (hope its big enough)
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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2007, 04:37:39 PM »
fyi the JSU-152 sports a 152 mm Howitzer cannon..i think they used AP shells as well:D
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2007, 05:00:06 PM »
I can understand that being field-artillery, but a tank? No way, doesn't look as if that turret can turn.
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2007, 05:03:38 PM »
it could be used as a tank destroyer,if i remember right
the jag'dpanther i dont beleve had a rotational turret and it was a tank(Destroyer)
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2007, 05:22:41 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2007, 05:44:22 PM »
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I can understand that being field-artillery, but a tank? No way, doesn't look as if that turret can turn.


It belongs to a family of german tanks called turetless tanks. It was a cheap and quick way of putting big guns on existing chassis.

They were a trade off of mobility, no turnable turret, for firepower, had a big gun.

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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2007, 06:40:46 PM »
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fyi the JSU-152 sports a 152 mm Howitzer cannon..i think they used AP shells as well:D


They had a whalloping 20 shell capacity. Hope your aim is good!

The Jagdpanther would rape everything we have in game now. The JP's PaK 43 outperforms the Tiger's KwK 36 by a very large margin, and the sloped frontal armor would defeat the Tiger's cannon at common ranges we see GV combat at in game.

If you want a moderatly powerful tank destroy duo, check out the Su-85, M-36 Jackson, and Jagdpanzer IV. If you want to kick it up a notch, then make it the Su-100, M-10 Achilles (maybe with APDS), and the upgunned Jagdpanzer IV/70.

And Vertex, that is a RUSSIAN built ISU-152. Other than that, you are correct. Technically it was an infantry support gun, but the AP shell was so powerful that it could make mincemeat of the Tiger at unheard of ranges; hell at closer ranges the HE shell was so huge that a shot on the turret ring would send the top flying right off.
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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2007, 07:01:55 PM »
I had no Idea the Russians built these things too, thought it was a German thing only, thanks for the info.

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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2007, 08:14:47 PM »
Wow, I'm sure the T-34 huggers would love that!
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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2007, 10:02:46 PM »
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I had no Idea the Russians built these things too, thought it was a German thing only, thanks for the info.

:)


No problem mate. They got the idea to do so, if I recall correctly, from seeing the success the Germans were having with the StuG III Ausf. G assault gun in the tank destroyer role. There were several versions of that basic type that the Russians employed.


The SU-152, nicknamed "zervoboy" (sp?) at Kursk, which translates to Animal Killer, for how easy it killed Panthers and Tigers, even Elefants. It was based off of the earlier KV series of tanks.

The ISU-152, as pictured above, was based off of the Iosef Stalin series of tanks.


There is the SU-122, based off the KV series as well. It has, as ya can see, a very short barrelled gun designed for infantry support. Basically put, it sucked at killing tanks because the shells had a very low muzzle velocity.


The ISU-122 mounted a much more powerful 122mm cannon, and was based off of the Iosef Stalin series as well.

Then you have the Su-85 and Su-100. Both were based off of the T-34 chassis, and were turretless AFVs like the ones pictured above. The difference is that these were dedicated tank destroyers with very powerful cannon. The Su-85 mounted a modified 85mm AA gun, and the Su-100 packed a purpose-built 100mm high velocity anti-tank gun.


Su-85


Su-100

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Wow, I'm sure the T-34 huggers would love that!


Remember, 20 round shell capacity. Unless the devs of this game unfark the optics and give tankers a magnification that is worth a damn, the ISU-152 would be very much useless.
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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2007, 10:11:18 PM »
Anyone notice these dweebs never READ the post after they make it?

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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2007, 10:13:21 PM »
Funny how that works, isn't it?