Thrusmaster FCS and WCSII Setup Problems

[Jagdflieger]

Greetings,
  I use the FCS/FCSII/TOPGUN sticks with the WCSII and TM Pedals.

I cannot get the throttle portion of my WCSII working correctly in AH.  I use an Analog hat setting and a Digital throttle setting.  Throttle is programmed with the correct keyboard command input for throttle and the correct number of steps.  

However if I move the throttle quickly, the game does not respond to it completely.  If I move the throttle slowly the game responds correctly.  I've swapped out throttles so it isn't hardware related.  

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

[sprint]

Jag .. I have to move my throtle slowly too.  I just tell my self if I move it to fast, I will kill the engine ... so now its second nature to move the throttle slowly.  BTW... I have a TM F-16 TQS Throttle.

sprint

[FDutchmn]

I used to have the same setup TM X-Fighter, WCSII, and RCS.  I set mine up for analog throttle.  I liked it better that way.

[FDutchmn]

Jagd,

did ya get my reply to your private message?

Flying Dutchman

[Jagdflieger]

FD!
  Yes I did, thank-you.  Not sure that I understand all of it and I am VERY loath to lose the ability for combination views. <sigh>
One of the reasons I didn't go over to CH products awhile back.
I can't believe it is a problem with my hardware as it worked fine in Air Warrior.
I think it is just a matter of the way AH is programmed.  I wrote AH a letter, and they were less than supportive.  Basicly told me I had the correct number of steps (21) but that AH prefered Analog throttle.
I took that as a "Suck it up" reply.  

Jagd

[FDutchmn]

Jagd,

Ok, let me explain the problem with a digital throttle a bit more as I experienced it.  Anyone who feels that I am mistaken, please jump in.

As sprint pointed out, the throttle has to be moved slowly or the signals gets lost between your throttle and your motherboard.  What this means basically is that the motherboard cannot handle the amount of signals transmitted by the throttle. (this is my explanation to the behavior)  So, if you move it too fast, the more the chance that the signal gets eaten up and gets lost.  So, Sprint knows this and suggested that it has to be moved slowly so that the motherboard can accept the inputs without loss.

What I suggested to you, if you still prefer to use digital throttle, is to add extra steps.  For example, on AW, there were 15 steps to reach 100% throttle.  As you will notice from what I sent you, I programmed 9 extra steps.  Why did I do this?  The extra steps will make sure that even if I moved the throttle fast, I can reach full throttle or complete chop when I need it.

For this reason, I preferred the analog throttle, because I do not need to worry about extra steps.  All I needed to worry about is think about how to overcome the views setup, which is different from AW.

I did program my configuration so it is like AW with analog coolie hat. (there is a small draw back to it, but I got used to the behavior of my machine)

Soooo, kindly let me know how things turn out for you.

[Jagdflieger]

FD,
  I with you except, this is the same machine/motherboard that I used with Air Warrior and I didn't have the "step" problem there.

However I will add a BUNCH of steps in and see if I can get that to help ....
What about the rate setting?  I have mine very low right as I got my best movement with a low number 10 or so?

Jagd

[FDutchmn]

However I will add a BUNCH of steps in and see if I can get that to help ....
What about the rate setting? I have mine very low right as I got my best movement with a low number 10 or so?

Jagd,

As you can see from what I sent you before, I had a rate of 55ms.  I worked this out by playing with rate settings and found that my WCS2 and motherboard had this capacity.

However, when I turned to AW, I still needed to add extra steps to work out this problem of moving my throttle "too fast".

So, what you are experiencing with AH right now maybe what I experienced with AW.

Right now, with my setup, I have no problems.  In fact, my rate is 0 with my new computer.

I could suggest you a re-install of your OS, and eliminate all "Terminate and Resident" softwares like Virus checkers and firewalls.  You might hate it (I would without adequate protection) but, these games including AH, Simple Is Best.  Dual Boot is good, but I have an extra detachable hard disk just for gaming purposes.  I would suggest this too.

Well, that's it for now.  I hope things are working out for you.