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Offline bsdaddict

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« Reply #285 on: November 20, 2007, 08:47:19 AM »
pretty positive piece here from PBS...

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« Reply #286 on: November 20, 2007, 08:55:33 AM »
moot.. the end justifies the means?

the point is that all we have is the means.

Let's get real.. he is not going to get in.  It is not going to happen..  what may happen tho is that his views will attract a large portion of the voting public to look at him in the primaries..  he may get close enough that he will get noticed and his views will be a wake up call for the republicans.

I don't want that wakeup call dilluted by a bunch of rah rah liars.   I don't want the message to be simply an anti war one.   I want it to be one of individualism and smaller government and tax overhaul.. I want it to be that we are sick of more and more government in our lives.

Otherwise.. his loss will be meaningless.. the "end justifies the means" people will screw us yet again.

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« Reply #287 on: November 20, 2007, 11:36:35 AM »
Ron Paul is now at five percent nationally (average of all polls, even Fox).

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« Reply #288 on: November 20, 2007, 12:38:11 PM »
I just hope Ron Paul has the good sense to not strike out on his own when he fails to win the Republican nomination.
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« Reply #289 on: November 20, 2007, 12:46:53 PM »
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The ONLY way you get the media's attention is with money. They didn't even talk about Paul until he had the ~$5 million donation day.

I think it's time to rub their noses in it. I plan to contribute on Dec. 16th, my brother will as well.

Hey, it's deductible! and if he were to win, he'd try to abolish the IRS anyway! It's win-win!
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« Reply #290 on: November 20, 2007, 02:29:15 PM »
Lazs, that's true.  I agree he still has only a very long shot (he's still at just 5%), but I don't think he's guaranteed to lose.

While I do agree that a lot of voters only superficialy understand what RP's aiming for, I don't think that RP's been fooling anyone, nor do I think that there's such a disconnect between what he's presenting now and what he'll eventualy argue.
I think it's all on the same path.  I think it's the the same as with the government downsizing policies: he won't do it overnight, he won't get everyone to go cold turkey instantly, but the intent is nevertheless the same.

I think people may or may not understand RP's policies, or why they are a good thing.  Some will inevitably never understand one or both of these until the policies are actualy happening, maybe some will never get the rationale behind it all.
What matters is that RP doesn't fish flop, and makes sure he presents his ideas in such a way that's not counterproductive, like saying something that's different enough from what people are used to that they instinctively assume it's a screwball idea.

RP hasn't fish flopped yet, and my point is that what seems to you (if I read you right) to be deception seems to be a palatable introduction to the right way of doing things.
And like I said it's inevitable that some people will just not get it in time for voting day.
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« Reply #291 on: November 21, 2007, 09:21:50 AM »
nothing would make me happier than if everyone who wanted to vote for ron paul did so because they understood his ideas and approved and that was enough people to get him elected.

I would be almost as happy if everyone who voted for him in the primaries understood what he stood for and voted for him and... even tho he lost... it was a substanitial enough amount of informed voters that the republicans.... and even.. the democrats could not ignore the import of so many wanting a change to a more libertarian/individualist government.

for him to just get a lot of primary votes from people who think he is just the anti war candidate is worthless.

Am I making myself clear?  It is sometimes difficult to get across the idea that the end does not justify the means when the people who you are trying to talk to are so invested in the "end".

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« Reply #292 on: November 21, 2007, 11:58:09 AM »
I've got a good reply, but I'm too sleepy to express it clearly.. I'll come back and type it out later.
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« Reply #293 on: November 27, 2007, 01:21:44 PM »
Ron Paul Facts (Chuck Norris Style!)

1. Ron Paul invented Chuck Norris.
2. Ron Paul doesn't go the gym. He stays fit by exercising his civil rights.
3. Ron Paul delivers babies without his hands. He simply reads them the Bill of Rights and they crawl out in anticipation of freedom.
4. Ron Paul has no alarm clock, but instead wakes every morning to the call of freedom.
5. Ron Paul lost his virginity to Susan B. Anthony.
6. Ron Paul doesn't cut taxes. He kills them with his bare hands.
7. Jesus wears a wrist band that says "What Would Ron Paul Do?"
8. Ron Paul doesn't sleep. He deliberates.
9. I just saved a bunch of money by switching to Ron Paul.
10. If you pull Ron Paul's finger, a band will march by playing Yankee Doodle Dandy.

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« Reply #294 on: November 27, 2007, 01:30:26 PM »
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Originally posted by bsdaddict
Ron Paul Facts (Chuck Norris Style!)

1. Ron Paul invented Chuck Norris.
2. Ron Paul doesn't go the gym. He stays fit by exercising his civil rights.
3. Ron Paul delivers babies without his hands. He simply reads them the Bill of Rights and they crawl out in anticipation of freedom.
4. Ron Paul has no alarm clock, but instead wakes every morning to the call of freedom.
5. Ron Paul lost his virginity to Susan B. Anthony.
6. Ron Paul doesn't cut taxes. He kills them with his bare hands.
7. Jesus wears a wrist band that says "What Would Ron Paul Do?"
8. Ron Paul doesn't sleep. He deliberates.
9. I just saved a bunch of money by switching to Ron Paul.
10. If you pull Ron Paul's finger, a band will march by playing Yankee Doodle Dandy.


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« Reply #295 on: November 27, 2007, 03:14:28 PM »
I'm so sorry, but Ron Paul & Chuck Norris don't even belong in the same sentence! Horrible! Except maybe to say that Ron Paul could be... maybe... CN's towel boy!
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« Reply #296 on: November 27, 2007, 03:19:43 PM »
Chuck Norris supports Huckabee.

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« Reply #297 on: November 30, 2007, 08:59:26 AM »
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« Reply #298 on: November 30, 2007, 11:02:40 AM »
Jumble up the letters in the name "Ron Paul" and spell a word or sentence..

Ron Pual = PoRn u al  

I just need another "l".

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« Reply #299 on: November 30, 2007, 11:08:35 AM »
that's mighty creative of you, Mac.