Author Topic: Zogby Poll: Voters Believe Media Bias is Very Real (Read 1024 times)

namvet · « **Reply #30 on:** March 16, 2007, 09:25:03 AM »

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Originally posted by moot
With its long, sharp teeth... and its treachoursly convincing dyslexic aberrations.

pwnt

Gunthr · « **Reply #31 on:** March 16, 2007, 09:52:20 AM »

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No assumptions are required to conclude that just because a lot of people believe something doesn't necessarily make it true.

Based on your assertion that the media is almost wholly owned and controled by corporate and capitalist interests, you seem to be making the assumption that the media therefore cannot have a leftist agenda. or at least, those who believe the media does have a leftward bias, will find no evidence to support that belief. Am I correct?

Momus-- · « **Reply #32 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:22:53 AM »

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Based on your assertion that the media is almost wholly owned and controled by corporate and capitalist interests

Not an assertion at all, just an easily verifiable statement of a fact.

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You seem to be making the assumption that the media therefore cannot have a leftist agenda, or at least, those who believe the media does have a leftward bias, will find no evidence to support that belief. Am I correct?

It's not for me to prove a negative. It is alleged here that the US media displays or indeed promotes a certain institutional bias. Why would a capitalist owned industry (the media) hold or indeed promote a position that might be considered inimical to it's own best interests? So far the only evidence brought forward (here) to support this idea is an opinion poll - hence my earlier highlighting of the argumentum ad populum fallacy.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #33 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:30:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Momus--
No assumptions are required to conclude that just because a lot of people believe something doesn't necessarily make it true.

The perfect example is the man made global warming scare mongering.

Toad · « **Reply #34 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:54:25 AM »

Here's another argumentum ad populum fallacy.

Most people, observing that a bird looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck will believe it probably is a duck even though they have no scientific evidence, just appearances processed through their own sensory organs.

If you polled them, most would say "it's a duck".

Shamus · « **Reply #35 on:** March 16, 2007, 11:06:39 AM »

I would agree that a majority of the the media has a liberal bent, I guess that is why it is a good idea to read between the lines.

Thank god for Fox news, they are fair and balanced, no need to question what they say, just accept and repeat.

shamus

Momus-- · « **Reply #36 on:** March 16, 2007, 11:12:37 AM »

That's a poultry argument if I've ever seen one Toad.

Airscrew · « **Reply #37 on:** March 16, 2007, 11:15:42 AM »

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That's a poultry argument if I've ever seen one Toad.

well arent most political discussions fowl anyway?

Toad · « **Reply #38 on:** March 16, 2007, 11:28:31 AM »

Many of those arguing espouse bird-brained logic and ideas.

Airscrew · « **Reply #39 on:** March 16, 2007, 11:37:57 AM »

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Many of those arguing espouse bird-brained logic and ideas.

well birds of a feather, flock together

Torque · « **Reply #40 on:** March 16, 2007, 03:48:00 PM »

get the iron sights on the liberal media bias, as iraq will soon need a fall guy.

but hey, what the free market will bear eh...

Eagler · « **Reply #41 on:** March 16, 2007, 04:40:56 PM »

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get the iron sights on the liberal media bias, as iraq will soon need a fall guy.

that fall 'guy' showed up last Nov.

not really a fall guy more like the cause of our defeat if/when they pull the $$ plug

Hajo · « **Reply #42 on:** March 16, 2007, 06:09:55 PM »

Del...yes we do agree. I remember News casts (nationally) got ratings on the believabilty of their Reporters and Anchormen. Cronkite, Huntley & Brinkley etc. CBS had a ton of reporters who were Jouarnalists and held in high esteem. So did NBC at that time. Viewing was based on trust, not in what you wanted to hear. They reported the News.....that's all. It was up to the weekend news shows to present views of the News from different perspectives. Also Sunday Newspapers did the same with various points of view by Editors and syndicated columnists from various news agencies.

Now it appears (sadly) that most of the news comes from the internet or from TV. Unfortunately Cable News is slanted. It slants to what seems to be popular. Even the New York Times imho has become jaded in that respect. One of the most trusted sources of news in years past (The New York Times) has chosen to jump on the bandwagon with Cable and Network News. Let's sell this! Let's not report...let's influence! Let's try and get the Public to see things our way! If we get good at it we know we can tell people what they want to hear!

Good night Chet........Good night Dave

john9001 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 16, 2007, 06:57:49 PM »

the media has always been wrong/biased/maniuplating public opinion.

Cronkite told the american people that the viet cong won the Tet offensive when the truth was they suffered their biggest defeat of the war.

the news paper publishers Hurst and Pulitzer turned public opinion in favor of a war with spain (spanish american war) so they could sell more papers.