50cals......

[Pooh21]

his connection is a tin can and string.

[PuckIt]

Go offline. Turn your tracers on. Get behind a drone at 300k. Start your film. Blast away. Then go review. You will see you have made a boo boo.

[Benny Moore]

Originally posted by redman555
I my grandfathers friend flew a P-51 in WWII and he said 1 accurate burst of it would rip a wing clear off.

First, note the "accurate."  Since I'm a good shot at normal ranges, it takes me an average of about two seconds to kill a fighter with four fifty calibers (catastrophic structural failure, mostly, not just fire).  I think that's perfectly reasonable.  Second, a "burst" can mean one second or ten seconds of firing; the limit is how long the guns can handle it.  And third, the primary cause of aircraft loss by all calibers in World War Two was fire, not catastrophic structural failure.  I do think that the damage model needs work, but the guns are closer to being too powerful rather than not powerful enough (actually it's not the destructive power as much as the effect on the airframe).

Biggles is absolutely right.  You need to learn how to shoot (and not use television as a source - ever).  I do know how to shoot, and I think that the Browning fifties are overall the best in the game.  Since I fly the P-38, I have both Hispano and Brownings at my disposal; I rely primarily on the machine guns and save the cannon for emergencies.

[Kweassa]

You saw 200 hit sprites? I'm thinking not.

 With his 3.77% average in gunnery, to see "200" hit sprites he would have fired around 5,305 rounds total.

 Assuming he was flying a P-47 with extra ammo option which has 3,400 50cal rounds in AH, 5,305 rounds is about one and a half jugfull of ammunition, with a firing time of total 48 seconds.

 In other words, with his gunnery he could have held down the trigger for 32 seconds until he spends the entire ammo load of the P-47 on just one opportunity, and he still wouldn't be able to count "200" hit sprites.

 Ofcourse he's lying. Or exaggerating grossly, rather.

 He didn't put 200 rounds in that 190. He probably fired 200 rounds. With his 3.77% gunnery, out of those 200 rounds fired he probably landed about only around 7~8.

[Ball]

Originally posted by redman555
I really think this needs to be fixed. A 50cal is not much smaller than a 20mm i mean its really almst 3/4 the size of a 20.

I suggest that you read this: -

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/WW2guneffect.htm

And: -

Powerful HMGs like the Berezin and the .50" Browning were of course far from useless. They remained quite effective against fighters but would probably have found great difficulty in shooting down heavy bombers. The USN tested the 20mm Hispano against the .50", and concluded that the Hispano was three times as effective at normal fighting ranges, even though the gun weighed less than twice as much.

from

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/ideal.htm

[Lusche]

Originally posted by redman555

A 50cal is not much smaller than a 20mm i mean its really almst 3/4 the size of a 20.

Basic math: 50cal = 12.7mm is only almost 3/4 in diameter. But the volume of any body is function of x to the power of 3.

So a 20mm round is almost 4 times bigger than a 50cal, if the shapes are identical.
(And of course you would have to add the explosive filling of that 20mm when comparing both rounds)

[hyena426]

yup,,pretty close...bullet weight..or grains are the best to go by...a 20mm on average is 1600 grains...a 50 cal is 500...so a 20mm is little over 3 times as heavy as a 50 cal..so a 20mm is worth three 50cal rounds

[lagger86]

If I could make all the planes in the MA's do slow circles , My 50 cals would be far more devistating. I can destroy planes from 800 out with a good burst...yet in the MA's nobody flies in slow circles....WHY? Please if you read this post, go to a base I plan on upping and fly in slow circles, it would be very nice of you...Thanks in advance.

[FBplmmr]

50's are like chainsaws when you hit the same spot.(spray and pray is not effective)

I like the wing root on spits for example( seems like if they  are pulling hard Gs when you hit the wing it will come off like it was put on with Velcro)

 and the right engine on A20s (I suppose the left is good too but i always go for the right one   (my wife would say I'm making the left one jealous))

LA's i just shoot at the back because they are always running away:lol


I set my convergence to 250 because I like to get close in (because I cant see for chit) and I fly a Hellcat (the plane not my wife) most nights.

I do admit against heavy bombers they are not exactly what the doctor ordered

[storch]

If you take the jug against bombers those 8 .50s are more effective than the small nosed 110G with 2x30mm and 2x20mm.  .50s are overmodelled in this game.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by storch
If you take the jug against bombers those 8 .50s are more effective than the small nosed 110G with 2x30mm and 2x20mm.  .50s are overmodelled in this game.

BS

Bronk

[Meatwad]

Originally posted by redman555
all of them hit i saw it so w/e

Otherwords:

"You hurt my feelings you big meanies! Im telling my mommy"

[iWalrus]

Rule 4

[quintv]

.50s cals seem to rip things off for me pretty easily, and I am a piss poor shot.

I have my convergence  in a zone from 300-400 (most of my deflection shoots seem to be around 400, and its good enough for dead six up close). The 6 x .50 cals kill really well.

The only things that give me trouble are heavy bombers and using the 4x .50 cal arrangement. Bombers sort of require you to saddle up and hose them which means more oppurtunity for them to kill you, and well the 4 x .50 cal arrangement is 50% less lead going to the target.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by iWalrus
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Your not long for this world.


Bronk

Edit: Lan this the New you? hahhahaha