Author Topic: Why Any Gun Except Semiauto? (Read 861 times)

john9001 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 20, 2007, 11:13:52 AM »

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Originally posted by Halo
Good point, Lazs2. Will silencers ever be generally acceptable? Much kinder to the ears and environment.

Just as in regular shooting, relatively few silencer users would be sinister, probably no greater than the present ratio of good gun users to bad gun users.

Isn't there some kind of performance degradation when a silencer is added on? Seems like there should be, however small.

was watching a "gun" show on TV yesterday and they were demonstrating silencers, they said that some states have allowed their use. first i ever heard of this.

they put one on a 22 semi-auto pistol and the bullet impact made more noise then the gun.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 20, 2007, 11:44:04 AM »

As far as I know, you can get a silencer through a Class 3 tax via the ATF. Some people use them for target shooting.

However, they are illegal to use for self defense, no matter if the shooting was justified or not.

john9001 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 20, 2007, 11:56:37 AM »

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However, they are illegal to use for self defense, no matter if the shooting was justified or not.

cop:: "did you shoot the bad guy with your silencer?"

me:: "no sir, i took it off first"

LLv34 Jarsci · « **Reply #33 on:** March 20, 2007, 04:47:11 PM »

Silencers are allowed for hunting here.

Because I use shots that go near mach 2 there is a loud bang every time I shoot, but the silencer still manages to suppress the sound around 20-30 dB, which really makes difference. And if I decide to lob the shots subsonic ... just imagine 500-600gr heavy slug at 320m/s without sound...

THUMP!

That would kill an elk from short distance...

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #34 on:** March 20, 2007, 04:55:26 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
cop:: "did you shoot the bad guy with your silencer?"

me:: "no sir, i took it off first"

And when the forensics show that you shot with the silencer on, as well as corroborative evidence from neighbor's reports, what will you say?

Excel1 · « **Reply #35 on:** March 20, 2007, 08:05:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Halo
Isn't there some kind of performance degradation when a silencer is added on? Seems like there should be, however small.

On a centre fire rifle using standard high velocity ammo projectile point of impact drops slightly when using a suppressor, but the amount varies depending on the design/size of the suppressor. Accuracy often improves, but I think that has more to with the suppressor lessoning felt recoil on heavier kicking bolt guns, and muzzle flip on self loaders.

The biggest disadvantages are from the increase in overall length and weight when using a suppressed rifle. Balance is another factor as well; they make the rifle muzzle heavy.

There are no restrictions on suppressed guns in NZ. There use of is actually encouraged, and they can be bought over the counter suppressed like the Savage Weather Warrior below. I hear the Savage is very accurate, but it's just a little too shiny for my tastes.

eagl · « **Reply #36 on:** March 20, 2007, 08:42:46 PM »

If you shoot someone with a silencer, take it off afterwards and expend another half dozen shots into the walls, ceiling, floor, etc. The neighbors will hear a flurry of shots but nobody will have an accurate count, and the cops will figure you just got a little excited.

Er... at least that's what I saw in some movie... yea thats it.

john9001 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 20, 2007, 08:46:40 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
And when the forensics show that you shot with the silencer on, as well as corroborative evidence from neighbor's reports, what will you say?

i live in the country, nearest neighbor is about quarter mile away, and being farm country you hear gunshots all the time. So i really would not have a need to use a silencer.