Author Topic: Add BF109T Carrier model? (Read 2989 times)

DocRoe · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:45:58 PM »

huh?i was just looking at a picture of one on a carrier and one with its nose into the carrier lol

here lemme find it.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:F2A1_Thach_Saratoga.jpg

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g10000/g12906.jpg

just look em up...

and although i hear pilots called them " flying coffins" itd still be cool to have one in game

Karnak · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:47:13 PM »

Let me rephrase, they never flew of a CV during WWII and into combat.

DocRoe · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2007, 02:49:35 PM »

oh, but it still could take off of a carrier, did take off carriers, did go into combat lol just because it didnt take off carrier, then go into combat doesnt mean it shouldnt be in game... maybe there was no combat to be had lol

Charge · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2007, 03:01:47 PM »

"That's my guess as to how they survived -- lack of use."

They were stationed in Norway. No info how much they saw combat, though.

-C+

Karnak · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2007, 03:18:27 PM »

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Originally posted by DocRoe
oh, but it still could take off of a carrier, did take off carriers, did go into combat lol just because it didnt take off carrier, then go into combat doesnt mean it shouldnt be in game... maybe there was no combat to be had lol

No, I am not saying it shouldn't be in the game. I am saying it is iffy that it should be carrier enabled in the game. It was quite rare so I am not sure how needed it is though.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2007, 03:52:07 PM »

I for one would love to see a German carrier plane.

The Question I have is what capability do the 109T have? It may have been a 109E varient but it would have weighed more and had more drag.

I say if it can be done by AH (relatively easily) and it saw combat in WW2 then let's have it. It would make a nice target in carrier ops.

Angus · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2007, 05:37:49 PM »

Kanrak, you forgot the Hurricat

Krusty · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2007, 05:47:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Angus
Kanrak, you forgot the Hurricat

That was the catapult-launched, 1-way, convoy defender. You might be thinking of the Sea Hurricane.

Benny Moore · « **Reply #23 on:** March 21, 2007, 05:58:14 PM »

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Originally posted by F4UDOA
I for one would love to see a German carrier plane.

I say if it can be done by AH (relatively easily) and it saw combat in WW2 then let's have it.

They did not see combat.

I suppose we should include the carrier-equipped P-38, eh. One was made, and it worked just fine (though storing it was another story). And the P-38 fitted to carry two torpedoes, also ... After all, the P-38 saw combat, so logically we should include them, right?

Your "logic" stinks. It's like talking to a lawyer or a "Jehova's Witness."

Krusty · « **Reply #24 on:** March 21, 2007, 06:05:34 PM »

Benny, the 109Ts did see combat. In a limitd capacity. Just not from CVs. Germany had no carriers in WW2. I agree with you, though. We shouldn't see them added to AH.

Benny Moore · « **Reply #25 on:** March 21, 2007, 06:23:30 PM »

Any Me-109T that saw combat was not equipped for taking off of carriers, as Denniss pointed out, so no carrier-equipped Messerschmitt saw combat. Moreover, no carrier-based German fighter saw combat. You can look for loopholes all day, but the carrier Me-109 never saw combat, just as the carrier P-38 never saw combat. A carrier 109 makes as much sense as the carrier P-38.

An argument for a non-carrier-equipped 109T makes ever so slighly more sense, but it's still pretty stupid. Though they may have seen combat, it was such limited numbers and was no better than the Emil. So, why?

Krusty · « **Reply #26 on:** March 21, 2007, 07:16:58 PM »

Hey, I said I agree with you! I'm not arguing! I was just clarifying

DocRoe · « **Reply #27 on:** March 21, 2007, 07:17:50 PM »

lol w/e..but agree that buff would be good?

Viking · « **Reply #28 on:** March 22, 2007, 12:19:31 AM »

A carrier enabled 109T would be great for what-if scenarios and campaigns. The plane existed and was flown operationally. How many were made is irrelevant. That the carrier was never finished is irrelevant. This is a game.

Angus · « **Reply #29 on:** March 22, 2007, 04:05:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
That was the catapult-launched, 1-way, convoy defender. You might be thinking of the Sea Hurricane.

Well, both actually. The Hurricat could be launched from another ship in the TG for instance. That would be cool

Since many sea Hurricanes were basically Mk I's and Mk IIC's, the work for HTC would be minimal, - but what a pain, damned HurriC's frrom a CV!
The Hurricats also bring one to MAC's (Merchant Aircraft Carriers), which had a remarkably fine career. Those might open the doors to different TG's, - small TG's with a MAC? Basically, they were intended to defend from FW's and Subs, and one day there will be subs in AH....