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Offline Bronk

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« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2007, 10:32:14 AM »




This a firefly?


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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2007, 10:48:21 AM »
looks like a Firefly to me :D
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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2007, 11:00:01 AM »
A photo of a restoration doesn't count.  It's not a question of whether a .50 could be equipped, it's a question of whether they did in service.  Of all the photos I've seen of them in action, I have yet to see one with a .50 mounted.  Without some additional corroboration, I'm inclined to pull it.
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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2007, 11:01:41 AM »
Oops, nm, I wasn't reading well.
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« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2007, 11:08:24 AM »
Rgr that Pyro I'll keep digging.


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« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2007, 11:09:49 AM »
The Brits rarely used the 50 cal on their Shermans I have sometimes seen pics of them mount 30cals tho as the turret top gun.
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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2007, 11:10:58 AM »
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The gun in question is the coaxial, right?


No the coaxial is the gun mounted next to the main gun.



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« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2007, 11:11:57 AM »
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A photo of a restoration doesn't count.  It's not a question of whether a .50 could be equipped, it's a question of whether they did in service.  Of all the photos I've seen of them in action, I have yet to see one with a .50 mounted.  Without some additional corroboration, I'm inclined to pull it.


these would be the guys to contact about it: http://www.tankmuseum.co.uk
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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2007, 11:14:37 AM »
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Offline Gianlupo

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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2007, 11:25:42 AM »
Waffle, can you tell me something about the skin the tank has? I'm curious, Belvedere is an italian word. :)

Btw, Kelly's heroes was a great movie, I like to watch it every time it's aired!
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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2007, 11:32:39 AM »
staight from here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Firefly


Sherman Firefly
General characteristics
Crew 4 (Commander, gunner, loader, driver)
Length 19 ft 4 in, 5.89 m
Width 9 ft, 2.75 m
Height 8 ft 7 in, 2.62 m
Weight 33 tonnes
Armour and armament
Armour 89 mm

Main armament OQF 17 pdr (76 mm) gun

Secondary armament
.50 Browning M2 machine gun (12.7 mm)
.30 Browning M1919 machine gun (7.62 mm)

Mobility
Power plant Chrysler Multibank (5 x inline-6) gasoline
425 hp ( kW)
Suspension coil spring
Road speed 25 mph (40 km/h)
Power/weight hp/tonne
Range 120 miles (193 km


One thing though not one pic of the thing shows the secondary 30 or 50 cal mounted on the top
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« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2007, 11:36:34 AM »
Sorry but that proves very little  because Wiki is not a reliable source of information.  That is because anyone can edit Wiki.  

For instance: only the other day i changed Skuzzy's name on the HTC section to "bearded warrior princess", but it was soon edited out.

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« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2007, 11:38:34 AM »
OMG man like what the hell is a burnt out hippy acid reject surfer type doin in WW2?   Joo go to hell Donald Sutherland! Joo go to hell and you die!


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« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2007, 11:39:52 AM »
Deck, I suspect that wiki entry is inaccurate.  I read it yesterday.  I also read another writeup on another site that said the .30cal coaxial was deleted from the turent to make room for the gun.  
I also read another site and a couple of lines that indicated the .50cal was mounted on approximatly 80 Fireflys M4A3W that were converted for US Army
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« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2007, 11:41:13 AM »
Belvedere is also a Polish vodka.

WRT the .50, as I said it is listed in most specs.  That's not in dispute.  Whether the spec accurately reflects the tank that went forth into the field is the question.
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