Author Topic: G.55 Centauro Lobbying Thread (Read 10005 times)

Geary420 · « **Reply #60 on:** March 23, 2007, 04:46:25 PM »

<---- Represent!

Gianlupo · « **Reply #61 on:** March 23, 2007, 07:29:19 PM »

I say they're both nice, Krusty!

Why don't you yet wear one of them?

Krusty · « **Reply #62 on:** March 23, 2007, 07:34:55 PM »

As soon as we get the skins pack released

I can't change my current avatar or I lose my suck-up powers, and the skins pack will never be released!!

BlauK · « **Reply #63 on:** March 24, 2007, 10:16:08 AM »

Another Italian fighter would be in order... after the Brewster is out...
but it should rather be "one of the 2 main front line aircraft" the G.50

Gianlupo · « **Reply #64 on:** March 24, 2007, 10:54:18 AM »

Blauk, I agree on that... as I said in the New plane election thread, why don't you change your agenda? We can join force and have the G.50, and we'll be both happy!

If not... you'll have to wait again for the Brewster... 'cause a Centauro is on the way!!!!! (I made HT an offer he cannot refuse....

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quintv · « **Reply #65 on:** March 24, 2007, 11:28:58 AM »

Ball · « **Reply #66 on:** March 24, 2007, 11:30:44 AM »

Fiat G.55 sucks. Just like Fiat cars.

Bronk · « **Reply #67 on:** March 24, 2007, 11:37:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Ball
Fiat G.55 sucks. Just like Fiat cars.

Fix
it
again
tony

Bronk

humble · « **Reply #68 on:** March 24, 2007, 12:04:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
The most important Italian fighters were the CR.42, C.200 and C.202.

Actually the G55 was the single most important fighter of the entire war....in fact it might have changed the war entirely. By Mid 1942 many elements of the luftwaffe felt that the 109 had reached its development apex and that the 190 was lacking as a pure fighter. German pilots had been very impressed with both the 205 and the G55. The luftwaffe flew combat trials and actually recommended that the G.55 replace the 109 in german production. The G.55 was much more intricate and required more then double the man hours to produce. That combined with political realities scuttled the proposal.....but the G55 is probably the dominant midwar plane in the world. While it may have little numerical or "historical" importance it is an aviation milestone. If in fact it had been put in service by the germans it might have arrived early enough and in great enough numbers to have changed history. I would wager it would be one of the top 3 scorers in AH.......

1K3 · « **Reply #69 on:** March 24, 2007, 12:53:57 PM »

G.55 would make a good perk plane:aok

Ball · « **Reply #70 on:** March 24, 2007, 01:02:18 PM »

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Originally posted by humble
Actually the G55 was the single most important fighter of the entire war....

no.. wait...

Ball · « **Reply #71 on:** March 24, 2007, 01:06:05 PM »

And the second most important fighter of the entire war was the CR.42. Used for longer and in greater numbers than any other Italian fighter.

Between them, the CR42 and G55 swept the allied air forces from the skies. Then when Italy decided to swap sides, the CR42 and G55 eliminated the LW.

In fact... the Brewster Buffalo was just a cleverly disguised Fiat G.55 - no surprise when you look at it's kills/death ratio.

Krusty · « **Reply #72 on:** March 24, 2007, 02:15:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Ball
And the second most important fighter of the entire war was the CR.42. Used for longer and in greater numbers than any other Italian fighter.

The CR42 was produced in numbers slightly higher than the C202, but most of these were pre-war, and they were far far obsolete before the war started. Italy's Air Force knew this at the time. It was built in higher numbers than any other IT plane, but did not see use more than the C.200, the G.50, the C.202, or the c.205/g.55.

It was confined to training, light attack, and even some night fighting, but it was just too poor an aircraft to keep up with anything else it would meet in the air.

Now, as for an ealier fighter, you come down to the G.50 or the C.200....

The C.200 was basically the dominant one, with Macchi being able to deliver them in larger numbers and faster. However, they had the same engine and the same armament, so I'd guess there was little to choose between the two.

Seeing that we already have a C.202, and a C.205, we don't want a monopoly of Macchis (say THAT fast three times!)

I'd say the G.50 would be a great candidate.

humble · « **Reply #73 on:** March 24, 2007, 03:47:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Ball

no.. wait...

typical response from a 40 watt bulb. Easy to take it out of context. But at a time when the 109 was still considered one of if not the dominant fighter of the war the germans already realized the G55 was a huge improvement as an airframe. The germans never had a development option from 1943 on that could make an immdediate differance. Had the G55 iarframe been melded with the late war engines that went into the G10,14,K4 you'd have had a plane that could both take on the bombers as well as the ponys tempests spit XIVs etc...

Given the planes cowl room I bet you could even have gone to a 5 x 20mm with the late war engine power....

The G55 is probably on par with the F7F as the two planes that never really saw mass production but would have changed the overall capabilities dramatically. Had the Germans met the mid 1943 bomber stream with G55's the stategic airwar might have played out very differently....

Krusty · « **Reply #74 on:** March 24, 2007, 03:49:42 PM »

The C.205N (none saw combat) did have side blister on the nose to add 2 more guns. I believe the G.55 had 1 craft at least tested with this configuration.

It wouldn't be without precedent to have that many guns in the nose. There just wasn't time to develop the design before Italy surrendered.