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Offline Ball

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« Reply #540 on: March 28, 2007, 02:57:57 AM »
CR.42! :D

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« Reply #541 on: March 28, 2007, 03:22:32 AM »
:noid  :noid

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« Reply #542 on: March 28, 2007, 03:45:29 AM »
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OMG! it looks exactly like a C.205!


Both of their air frame were good. But G.55's design still better. The french also love it:lol

The same design


Syrian love G.55,too:aok

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« Reply #543 on: March 28, 2007, 03:46:38 AM »
Fairey Battle - but it would have to be highly perked  :aok
Here we are, living on top of a molten ball of rock, spinning around at a 1,000mph, orbiting a nuclear fireball and whizzing through space at half-a-million miles per hour. Most of us believe in super-beings which for some reason need to be praised for setting this up. This, apparently, is normal.

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« Reply #544 on: March 28, 2007, 04:37:40 AM »
CPW... that's Egypt! ;)

Gatt, thanks for coming, bro! :)

Slash, sorry, I'd like to see the Re.2005, too, but it's been built and it served in too few exemplars...

Ball, it may look similar, but it's not, and you know it very well.... Stop breaking my precious..... errr..... data!!! :D

Just think about it: wing loading of the C.205 is 202,9 Kg/sq.m, for the G.55 the value is 176.2....
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« Reply #545 on: March 28, 2007, 05:09:23 AM »
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Slash, sorry, I'd like to see the Re.2005, too, but it's been built and it served in too few exemplars...


You mean it had even less of a production run than the 130 G.55's? Say it aint so!

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« Reply #546 on: March 28, 2007, 07:28:38 AM »
no more pizza for you VWE :D

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« Reply #547 on: March 28, 2007, 07:47:13 AM »
If the boss says that the G.55 is one of the possible new entries, I'm sorry for you and your irons  :)

Jokes apart, the behaviour of the two fighters (I mean the G.55 and the C.205) was pretty different. The G.55 was probably the best mid war bomber interceptor. As far as maneuverability at very high alt and ammo load are concerned, even the 109G with gun pods was an unarmed pig compared to it.
"And one of the finest aircraft I ever flew was the Macchi C.205. Oh, beautiful. And here you had the perfect combination of italian styling and german engineering .... it really was a delight to fly ... and we did tests on it and were most impressed." - Captain Eric Brown

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« Reply #548 on: March 28, 2007, 08:32:21 AM »
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CPW... that's Egypt! ;)


Sorry,I type so quickly and make a mistake.

By the way, add some pics:)


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« Reply #549 on: March 28, 2007, 08:41:15 AM »
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As far as maneuverability at very high alt


Pleeease... enough with it, you not going to fly it at high alt, your not going to use it to intercept buffs, your going to jump into a furball or at the least cherry pick in it. Even at 20k plus its still under 400mph, I bet its slower than a P-40E below 15k and other than half a dozen die hards it'll be a hanger queen.

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« Reply #550 on: March 28, 2007, 09:08:24 AM »
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Pleeease... enough with it, you not going to fly it at high alt, your not going to use it to intercept buffs, your going to jump into a furball or at the least cherry pick in it. Even at 20k plus its still under 400mph, I bet its slower than a P-40E below 15k and other than half a dozen die hards it'll be a hanger queen.


Maybe not.

In February 1943 a German test commission was sent in Italy to evaluate the new Italian fighters. The commission was led by Oberst Petersen and was formed by Luftwaffe officiers and pilots nad by technical personnel, among them the Flugbaumeister Malz. The Germans carried with them also several aircrafts included a Fw190A and a Me109G for direct comparison tests in simulated dogfights.

The tests began February 20. The German commission, not without a certain surprise, was very impressed by the Italian aircrafts, the G55 in particular. In general, all the Serie 5's were very good at low altitudes, but the G55 was competitive with its German opponents also in term of speed and climb rate at high altitudes still maintaining superior handling characteristics. The definitive evaluation by the German commission was "excellent" for the G55, "good" for the Re2005 and "average" for the MC205. Oberst Petersen defined the G55 "the best fighter in the Axis" and immediately telegraphed his impressions to Goering. After listening the recommendations of Petersen, Milch and Galland, a meeting held by Goering on February 22 voted to produce the G55 in Germany.

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I think G.55 is the most balance Axis fighter. It has good speed,turn radius,climb rate,range,and firepower. Especially it also beautiful:aok
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« Reply #551 on: March 28, 2007, 09:39:32 AM »
CPW,
I've got that report from Rechlin (february 27, 1943). The interesting thing is that the G.55 and the Re2005 did well at limited settings (1.3ata and 2,600rpm) against the 190A-5 (at full power) and the 109G-4 (settings not mentioned). The 205 had oil cooling problems and could not demonstrate his superiority in climbing.

VWE,
I'm not a subscriber anymore, so dont worry ;)

Gian,
howdy! Check your six ;)
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« Reply #552 on: March 28, 2007, 10:13:49 AM »
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Pleeease... enough with it, you not going to fly it at high alt, your not going to use it to intercept buffs, your going to jump into a furball or at the least cherry pick in it. Even at 20k plus its still under 400mph, I bet its slower than a P-40E below 15k and other than half a dozen die hards it'll be a hanger queen.


As Krusty [EDIT: it's CPW, sorry, too many identical avatars! :D] posted, VWE, it handled well even at low altitudes... Thing about it... the G.55 has a wing loading of 176.2 kg/sq.m, the Spit VIII 150,8, the 109F4 182.2, just to give you some term of comparison... it willl handle fairly even at low altitude.

Btw, production was of almost 200 examplars, 148 were delivered to the ANR, 15 were destroyed in the factory, during bombing and 37 more were ready when the factory was captured (with 73 more being at various completion stage on the production line)

The Wikipedia page was not correct and lacking in many things, so I edited it.

Gatt, I always check 6! ;) Btw, you have a PM!
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« Reply #553 on: March 28, 2007, 06:14:45 PM »
My Vote:

Bell P-39D Aircobra

Mitsubishi J2M3 Raiden  (JACK)

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« Reply #554 on: March 28, 2007, 08:55:10 PM »
I vote A-26 Invader.  Both B Attack (solid gun nose) and C Level Bomber/Pathfinder (glass nose w norden bombsite)versions.  Two planes for work of one.

And with up to 14 forward firing .50's with 400 rpg..... and with all the HO's in the arenas.... you'd think this would be an easy win.

Perk worthy bomber for buff drivers to spend perk points on.  Limit the "bomb-and-bail" tactics a bit.

And, should it come out ahead, The Sim-Outhouse's  A-26 Invader project for FS9 and FSX is nearly done.  Lot's of detailed work already collected and done there as far as research into flight model numbers.  I'm sure they'd share with  HTC.  Lot's of info posted right in their forums too for that matter.

Cockpit shots.  Flight data.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/forumdisplay.php?f=49


If the P-39 wins, I'll be pushing very hard for a Russian one.  Nod to Lend-Lease.  2nd highest Allied Ace of WWII was a Russian flying the P39 (and P63).   Put a Russian skin on the Airacobra and place it in the Russian plane set, I say.
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