Author Topic: Possibly Remove Ostwind with another flakpanzer  (Read 1339 times)

Offline USCH

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Possibly Remove Ostwind with another flakpanzer
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2007, 03:38:49 PM »
I think loading should not be to hard to do and should be invalved in the game. we load our tank rounds why not our osti clips?...but then again then a few of the bombers would have to do the same.... Ju88 and and 87 and i a few more early war aircraft...
but like i said i think the more real we get the better, even if it does make it harder, i dont think anyone wants the game to be dumbed down so we sould strive to make it as real as possable.

giving the players gun options for the osti should be like everything else
just like a 190 or 109 or whatever has multiple options due to its history.

on a side note:
I read tons of books on WWII flight and things dealing with the air war, and there are ALOT of field modifications that i think sould be added to the game, i have read of guys straping 2, 2000lbs bombs and 1 1000lbs bomb to the F4u1a in the field, the Hurri IId was a firld mod as was the G-? stuka with its flack guns.
how we didnt get the option to add the anti tank guns to the stuka just like the gonulas of the G model 109's i dont know..
but im shure if we ask they will get to it as they can.

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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2007, 07:16:11 PM »
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I think loading should not be to hard to do and should be invalved in the game. we load our tank rounds why not our osti clips?...but then again then a few of the bombers would have to do the same.... Ju88 and and 87 and i a few more early war aircraft...
but like i said i think the more real we get the better, even if it does make it harder, i dont think anyone wants the game to be dumbed down so we sould strive to make it as real as possable.

giving the players gun options for the osti should be like everything else
just like a 190 or 109 or whatever has multiple options due to its history.

on a side note:
I read tons of books on WWII flight and things dealing with the air war, and there are ALOT of field modifications that i think sould be added to the game, i have read of guys straping 2, 2000lbs bombs and 1 1000lbs bomb to the F4u1a in the field, the Hurri IId was a firld mod as was the G-? stuka with its flack guns.
how we didnt get the option to add the anti tank guns to the stuka just like the gonulas of the G model 109's i dont know..
but im shure if we ask they will get to it as they can.


Im guessing that the production values of the Stuka with the 37mm anti-tank guns were not large enough, then again its strange that HTC had introduced the Ostwind despite its terribly low production rate

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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2007, 10:32:57 PM »
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In this case 4x20 option must be perked, not 1x37.

Why may I ask?

N1k2, Hurri, Tiff and many others have 2 and 4 cannons to shoot with AND they are a fast moving target.

The Ostwind is a single barreled 37mm gun on a vehicle that is moving at a whoping 20mph or stationary.

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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2007, 10:36:50 PM »
Either way, it's a fairly hardened target, and a VERY stable gun platform.
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2007, 11:28:17 PM »
LTARs should be perked when in the Wirbelwind because it would doom us all...:O
ostie LTARs

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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2007, 12:42:33 AM »
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The Ostwind is a single barreled 37mm gun on a vehicle that is moving at a whoping 20mph or stationary.


I said they must perk ostwind? May be you need read from left to right, not in opposite way.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2007, 12:44:49 AM by Oleg »
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2007, 11:54:04 AM »
This is what you said "In this case 4x20 option must be perked, not 1x37"

My response was why?

You state I need to read left to right?  I never said anywhere in my ONE post that anything should be perked.

Maybe we misunderstood each other.  I just don't agree that IF we were to get the Wirbelwind it should be perked.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2007, 11:57:42 AM by MOIL »

Offline rauchen

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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2007, 12:04:37 PM »
This would put an end to my hi vulch diet for sure and force me to actually learn how to fly.

Bring it on!  I esp like the reload idea.

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Perking flakpanzers...
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2007, 02:46:07 PM »
We need to park some of these flakpanzers main in part of their low production rates, the Wirbelwind(Quad-20mm) had production rate of around 200 and same with the Mobelwagen (Single-37mm)...while the Ostwind had about 50 produced

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Typo
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2007, 08:51:49 PM »
Please Pardon me for not editing this Earlier...

It was supposed to be" ...we need to perk  some of these flakpanzers mainly  because...

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« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2007, 09:05:51 PM »
now come on a Ostwind isn't only a AA tank
it can kill jeeps,M3s,M16s,M8s,Pt boats,and maybe the LVTA 2and4:D

and i think the Wirbelwind can do the same:D
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Re: Typo
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2007, 11:41:46 PM »
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Originally posted by Willfly
Please Pardon me for not editing this Earlier...

It was supposed to be" ...we need to perk  some of these flakpanzers mainly  because...

Ok, thanks for clearing up the typo, however, I still have yet to read a post making a fair argument on WHY any WW2 flak veh would need to be perked?

Thanks


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« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2007, 12:53:18 AM »
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Originally posted by MOIL
This is what you said "In this case 4x20 option must be perked, not 1x37"

My response was why?

You state I need to read left to right?  I never said anywhere in my ONE post that anything should be perked.

Maybe we misunderstood each other.  I just don't agree that IF we were to get the Wirbelwind it should be perked.


I replied to flakbait post (which i didnt quote because i thought it was obvious). He said:

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... So when Pyro gets the perk ord working for the F4U-1D/1C, he could make the Wirbelwind the standard variant, with an option to take the Osty's 37mm gun in place of the quad 20mm.


I read it as "When HTC will able to perk ord/guns package, Wirbelwind can be free option while Ostwind will perked".

Any way, forgive me my offence, sometimes i can be quite irritable if i think somebody try to ascribe to me than i didnt said.

I dont think we will get Wirbelwind ever. But if HTC add it they must perk it because Wirbelwind will be much more effective than both M-16 and Ostwind (for obvious reasons). Ever now i'll better attack full b-17/b-24 set (i do it all the way, but many guys cry how deadly they are) than single m-16 (unless i have bombs, of course).
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Perk Flaks?
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2007, 08:32:16 PM »
I don't think there would be any good reason to perk a flak vehicle of any kind.
  We should have manned 88's for bomber defense, and also the 20mm flaks to give some range outside of the 2k or so we now get.
Add some fight to the field defences when the hordes come in.