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Offline *UH*

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« on: March 25, 2007, 12:35:53 AM »
anyone think that they should put the DO-335 in the game?

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2007, 12:40:34 AM »
did it see combat?

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2007, 12:45:06 AM »
as raider said but heres my question:
what the fack is that thing supposto do?:confused:
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2007, 12:53:06 AM »
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Originally posted by Wes14
as raider said but heres my question:
what the fack is that thing supposto do?:confused:


well its a plane so....

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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2007, 12:54:55 AM »
It most likely saw combat, but not in unit strength, so no it wouldn't be eligible for inclusion in AH.

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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2007, 01:06:47 AM »
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well its a plane so....

well by looking i dont think it would be a good fighter...:noid
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2007, 01:30:27 AM »
It was one of the fastest ever built. The pusher/puller setup gave twice the thrust with half the drag.

It wasn't without problems, though.

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2007, 03:20:29 AM »
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
did it see combat?


if you trust wikipedia:

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In his book The Big Show, French ace Pierre Clostermann claims the first Allied combat encounter with a Pfeil in April 1945. Leading a flight of four Hawker Tempests from No. 3 Squadron RAF over northern Germany, he intercepted by chance a lone Do 335 flying at maximum speed at treetop level. Detecting the British aircraft, the German pilot reversed course to evade. In spite of the Tempest's considerable speed, the RAF fighters were not able to catch up or even get into firing position.


there are other accounts of combat, though sparse and sometimes hard to verify because of the extremely odd nature of the aircraft. Some say odd planes all over Germany were encountered, and the accounts can be attributed to various planes in development, most never seeing "attack" combat roles.

Look at the different planes Germany had "in the works" and prototypes that flew... heck you could make an "argument" that 2/3 of those planes "saw combat" but when the allied aggressor can't readily identify what he is attacking, it is "hearsay"

did the DO-335 shoot down any allied planes? it is somewhat lost in the destroyed records of the war IMHO. there are sporadic accounts of DO-335 pilots killing P-51's but with only the LW pilot account to verify and shoddy at best it can not be conclusive. (with the guns it had any plane "shot down" there were no bail out "survivor" accounts obviously)

I would say the fact it was engaged by a relatively famous pilot that it had combat, maybe for a month. (realistically what are the odds one "famous" pilot who lived encountered the "rarest" LW plane? others had to encounter it, thought the inability to properly identify it obviously made for some confusion, and ommisions in "official" records)

at least that is my take on the wonderfully beautiful, grandiose, wished for, kick arse, monster cool, spend ALL my perks on, LW ride that could be in the game


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I will say this, of all the "cool arse" possible planes HTC could model, some that were theories, or not developed in time for combat, the DO-335 is a front runner for possible inclusion, as there ARE accounts of it, more than things like say the Gloster Meteor, or other "super planes"

I dare say it would be an awesome 262 hunter in the MA, and really be a fun plane to fly, much more so than the tempest, and it would be a well favored propeller driven "perk plane" in the MA rotation. Come on, who wouldn't want to fly it :D :aok
« Last Edit: March 25, 2007, 03:28:40 AM by JB73 »
I don't know what to put here yet.

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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2007, 07:28:28 AM »
The plane was fast, thats for sure but I've done some research and the Do-335 (ALL VARIANTS) had little production.

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                                Dornier-Werke G.m.b.H.
(Oberpfaffenhofen, Weßling, Germany)
Version      Quantity    Assembly Location    Time Period
Do 335V1 to V14 (Production:13+1*)Friedrichshafen mid 1943-mid 1944
Do 335A-0        (10)       Oberpfaffenhofen    July 1944-Oct 1944
Do 335A-1        (11+9*) Oberpfaffenhofen         Nov 1944-April 1945
Do 335A-4        (4*)       Oberpfaffenhofen Jan 1945-Feb 1945
Do 335A-6    (none made)   Heinkel, Vienna-Swechat    -
Do 335A-10         (1+1*)     Oberpfaffenhofen         Oct 1944-Apr 1945
Do 335A-12         (2+2*)     Oberpfaffenhofen         Nov 1944-Apr 1945
Do 335B-1        (1)      Oberpfaffenhofen     Jan-Feb 1945
Do 335B-2       ( 2)      Oberpfaffenhofen     Feb-Mar 1945
Do 335B-3       ( 1*)     Oberpfaffenhofen    Feb-April 1945
Do 335B-6        (2)      Oberpfaffenhofen     Jan-Feb 1945
Do 335B-7        (1*)     Oberpfaffenhofen    Feb-April 1945
Do 335B-8 (Production:2*) Oberpfaffenhofen    Feb-April 1945
         Total Production:   42 + 21*

Excuse me... i dont know of any plane in all of Aces High that has a low production value like the Do-335 , I mean only 42 were produced?! we might have it but simply too few were made to be used
« Last Edit: March 25, 2007, 07:32:58 AM by Willfly »

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2007, 10:56:22 AM »
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as raider said but heres my question:
what the fack is that thing supposto do?:confused:


     Actually it was quite fast, well armed and manuverable for a twin.
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2007, 11:38:13 AM »
i though it was some unique bomber
:noid
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2007, 12:40:52 PM »
Look at this last aircraft design by Junkers.
CLICK ME!

Kinda looks like our American bombers the B-36, B-47, and B-52. All mix into one.
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2007, 01:31:36 PM »
Willfly: It was still in development, that's why most of those numbers are low. They were 1-off testbeds. The only real production version was the A-1, if I recall. I don't know if your numbers for that are accurate, as I've heard that at least 40-50 were built. I could be wrong, though.

As for bomber: It was also designed to have an internal bomb bay (to reduce drag) and could carry bombs in it. However, often this was filled with an extra fuel tank instead, as the original plan was dropped and it was developed as a pure fighter instead.

The main problem is that the production version was lightly armed, with 1x 30mm hub gun and 2x 15mm cannon. The test-bed versions had 2x30mm in the wings as well, or some such added weaponry, but wasn't in full production (still in testing) at the end of the war.

The prototypes and testbeds are what make it interesting, the plain old A-1 wasn't too great, speed aside.


EDIT: Oh, and it won't ever make AH.

1) Must be production aircraft (no prototypes) - check!
2) Must have seen combat - most likely check!
3) Must have seen service at least in unit strength - nope!

No unit was ever equipped with them, as a whole.

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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2007, 09:50:52 PM »
well...i tired -.-
it would've made a good Aircraft in AH

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2007, 10:00:15 PM »
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Originally posted by VooWho
Look at this last aircraft design by Junkers.
CLICK ME!

Kinda looks like our American bombers the B-36, B-47, and B-52. All mix into one.
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