Author Topic: Round 2 Begins (Read 3702 times)

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #45 on:** March 30, 2007, 12:46:29 PM »

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Originally posted by tedrbr
of 4 of the cut.
Japanese fighter got axe, where I guessed Yak3.

G.55 had second highest poll count in boards, lost in popular vote.
How does a mid-war plane with 3 X 20mm X 200-250rpg, 2 X 12.7mm X 300 rpg, a speed of 385 mph at 22,965.88 feet, a 41,666 ft service ceiling, that could out fly most 109's and 190's get cut? No one knew what it was.

Being a little pretentious with your assumptions there. I really don't think it's a case of the player base being uninformed. The player base is more plane savvy than you give them credit for. Just because they didn't vote the way you wanted them to vote doesn't mean that ignorance won the day.

Have you ever thought that maybe players just didn't see a need for those planes in the MA and felt that some of the other choices would be a better fit in the planeset for various reasons?

ack-ack

96Delta · « **Reply #46 on:** March 30, 2007, 12:49:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
I don't have anything against it, I would surely fly it. But some people think we have some gaping holes in our planeset. Another american bomber will not fill the biggest one
(This is also the reason why I am against the addition of the He111. If another german bomber is to be added at all, it' s a mid/late war one, which doesn' t only fits for scenarios but also has a better chance to survive in the MA )

I personally wish that the He177 was on the list.
German's need a decent heavy bomber.

David

Ball · « **Reply #47 on:** March 30, 2007, 12:53:11 PM »

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Originally posted by 96Delta
German's need a decent heavy bomber.

David

That's what Hitler said too...

Oleg · « **Reply #48 on:** March 30, 2007, 12:56:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
B-25 will win, because people want to do the Doolittle Raid they have seen on TV. Yes, I know we wont get carrier bases 25s, but they don't, and they refuse to belive...

A-26 will beat B-25 because ppl always want late war uberplanes, both in bombers and fighters categories. That is why Yak-3 didnt quit yet, imho.

trotter · « **Reply #49 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:07:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
Looks like my personal top four were exactly the bottom four of the majority

Same

whiteman · « **Reply #50 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:13:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Being a little pretentious with your assumptions there. I really don't think it's a case of the player base being uninformed. The player base is more plane savvy than you give them credit for. Just because they didn't vote the way you wanted them to vote doesn't mean that ignorance won the day.

Have you ever thought that maybe players just didn't see a need for those planes in the MA and felt that some of the other choices would be a better fit in the planeset for various reasons?

ack-ack

i'm gunna go with there are quit a few that have no idea what is what. My brother couldn't remember the difference between the A26 and B25 and a bunch of the guys he flys with had no idea there was a vote and chose the Buffalo Brewster cause it sounded cool.

Also with as many younger players that i've come across in the last couple weeks i'd say their more than you think that don't know much about the aircraft.

i personally have never even seen or heard of the Me410, Brewster or G.55 before the list was presented

Puck · « **Reply #51 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:16:18 PM »

Silly people.

It's not about plane sets, performance, or need. None of those will have any impact whatsoever on the final outcome. You're analyzing the wrong data sets.

KAntti · « **Reply #52 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:18:24 PM »

I'm not really interested in giving grades or assumptions how the remainder of vote perhaps might or should go... seems rather pointless when you consider the blaablaa and booboo that's been flying around these boards past few days.

What I really would like to know is the total number of given votes in round #1. Is there any possibility you could share that information with us Pyro? I don't think this would mess up or effect the initial voting since there is no winner or loser mentioned, its just mass.

john9001 · « **Reply #53 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:29:01 PM »

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Originally posted by tedrbr

hey that sherman has a 50 on it, hey pyro look a picture of a sherman with a 50, see, see.

Tilt · « **Reply #54 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:32:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Oleg
A-26 will beat B-25 because ppl always want late war uberplanes, both in bombers and fighters categories. That is why Yak-3 didnt quit yet, imho.

Yup I reckon the first line in its (the Yak3's) Winipedia entry may have saved it a round

tedrbr · « **Reply #55 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:46:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Oleg
A-26 will beat B-25 because ppl always want late war uberplanes, both in bombers and fighters categories. That is why Yak-3 didnt quit yet, imho.

But, do those folks in the arenas that are making the votes, and don't follow the forums, or research the planes on the list, even know what an A-26 is?

If A-26 makes it, it will be due to a lot more old AW players around, and confusion over thinking the A-26 is one of the gun-heavy versions of the B-25.

By forum polls, you'd think the P-39 was a lock, but I doubt it has the name recognition to be an easy win. He-410's high designation number may help it..... after all 410 is much larger number than 262, 163, 190, 109, 234, and so forth. By the same token, Yak 3 may see a cut because 3 is so much smaller a number than 9.

Final four will have He 111 and B-25 in it though. Movies. Books. Name recognition.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #56 on:** March 30, 2007, 01:58:51 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
hey that sherman has a 50 on it, hey pyro look a picture of a sherman with a 50, see, see.

The question wasn't whether or not the standard Sherman had a mounted .50 caliber, the question was did the Firefly varient have the mounted .50 or .30 caliber machine gun.

ack-ack

ROC · « **Reply #57 on:** March 30, 2007, 02:32:02 PM »

[quoteOriginally posted by john9001
hey that sherman has a 50 on it, hey pyro look a picture of a sherman with a 50, see, see.[/quote]

psst, that's a Movie, they fake things. I know, I know, but superman doesn't exist either. There, I said it.

Gianlupo · « **Reply #58 on:** March 30, 2007, 03:04:36 PM »

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Originally posted by WldThing
G 55 Italians need something more!

KAntti · « **Reply #59 on:** March 30, 2007, 03:14:29 PM »

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G 55 Italians need something more!

And so do the americans it seems...