Author Topic: Poison Pet Food Thread (Read 1165 times)

airspro · « **Reply #30 on:** April 04, 2007, 05:12:38 PM »

Thanks Toad for the tip , my cat will love it I bet

http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/catformulas/UltCat.html#Ingredients

I looked it up and they sell it 8 miles away in Alma

kamilyun · « **Reply #31 on:** April 04, 2007, 06:37:35 PM »

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Originally posted by myelo
It's taurine. Tuna fish actually has a decent amount of taurine, but that's the least of your cat's problems if they're eating an all tuna diet. It's deficient in calcium, other minerals, several vitamins and several essential fatty acids. It's really a very poor diet for cats.

Not all tuna, I get sliced turkey and ham as well. It's all my older cat will eat. She has a "terminal" kidney problem and so pretty much whatever she wants to eat, she gets. That said, she's lasted several months, but with us injecting extra fluid to help her kidneys out.

Would the tuna, turkey, ham work well for a younger cat (supplemented with dry food)? Don't want to cause problems for our 2nd cat.

They just go crazy over that stuff. Figured if that's what they want...

Sundowner · « **Reply #32 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:06:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
There seems to be a mixup in the facts or your source, Sundowner. The FDA released the name of the Chinese company that producd it (Xuzhou Anying Biological Technology of Peixian, China), but refused to release the name of the US distributor.

Thx for the heads-up Rolex-san:)

Checking the links...

~~Sun~~

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #33 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:18:31 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
the cats around here don't get fed by us they hang around just the same. they usually eat the lizard's and mice's heads and that's about it.

That's one thing I never quite understood about cats. Why do they eat the head and give us the bodies? They heads can't possibly be tasty / enjoyable to eat.

Plus they know our habits of mounting heads...

Sundowner · « **Reply #34 on:** April 04, 2007, 08:52:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Sundowner
Thx for the heads-up Rolex-san:)

Checking the links...

~~Sun~~

Ahh.. saw it wasn't a hyper-link after all.

Regardless, this is interesting news, Rolex.

Did a little digging and found this interesting article with pertinent press releases and .gov announcements. (Yes it's a blog..but the links make it viable.)

"..........The FDA announced today that it has traced the contaminated wheat gluten to a single processor, Xuzhou Anying Biological Technology of Peixian, China, but has not released the name of the U.S. distributor who supplied the product to Del Monte, Menu Foods, Nestle Purina, and Hills Nutritional. In all, more than 70 brands and over 60 million cans and pouches of dog and cat food are now part of this massive recall, as well as at least one brand of dry cat food.

Public statements have indicated that the contaminated gluten was distributed by a single U.S. company, but since the FDA refuses to name the supplier, it is not yet known if this company also supplies human food manufacturers. It is also not yet known if Xuzhou Anying sells direct to food manufacturers in the U.S. or abroad......"

http://www.horsesass.org/?p=2749

Looks like until the FDA decides to reveal the US distributer it may be prudent to check the human food labels for "wheat gluten" and pass on 'em for awhile.

Hell, it's probably in everything we eat...doh!

Arigato, Rolex.

Sun

Chalenge · « **Reply #35 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:19:34 PM »

My cat is about to die from kidney failure. Protein is the enemy now. She came home from the vet tonight and refuses to eat. She is so weak she cant do much more than drink a little water and then pee where she is sitting. The vet wants to wait three days before trying an IV feed. She seems too weak to make it that long. Shes twelve and most of my cats have gone twenty years so this caught me by surprise. Shes been a good pet. Pets are like kids you have to watch out but unlike kids they cant tell you where it hurts.

She hasnt eaten any of the recalled brands her entire life and I still feel like I let her down.

Sundowner · « **Reply #36 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:26:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Chalenge
My cat is about to die from kidney failure. Protein is the enemy now. She came home from the vet tonight and refuses to eat. She is so weak she cant do much more than drink a little water and then pee where she is sitting. The vet wants to wait three days before trying an IV feed. She seems too weak to make it that long. Shes twelve and most of my cats have gone twenty years so this caught me by surprise. Shes been a good pet. Pets are like kids you have to watch out but unlike kids they cant tell you where it hurts.

She hasnt eaten any of the recalled brands her entire life and I still feel like I let her down.

Wish you and your friend the best, Chalenge.

Regards,
Sun

Toad · « **Reply #37 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:28:13 PM »

I tried to extend the life of a truly exceptional chocolate Labrador when his kidneys were failing. We did the IV thing, we did anything they suggested. I spent lots and lots of bucks.

What I think I actually accomplished was to extend his agony and increase my own. When he finally died, I was a miserable as I could be despite knowing I "did all I could".

When it's time, it's time. Pray that someone will have mercy on you when it's your time and that they don't try to extend your misery.

Still a subject that bothers me... sorry if I offended but that's my take on it.

Toad · « **Reply #38 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:30:55 PM »

Interestingly enough, that chocolate Lab had lived on Eukanuba. He got sick a couple of years after Proctor and Gamble bought Euk and changed the formula to include ethoxyquin.

Coincidence? Maybe. But after that I read a lot about Euk and ethoxyquin and the reported problems.

That's when I really started searching for better feeds.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #39 on:** April 04, 2007, 09:31:43 PM »

Sorry to hear that Chalenge. They do get under yer skin. That is for sure.

LePaul · « **Reply #40 on:** April 04, 2007, 11:25:03 PM »

Thankfully my guys like the ghetto food I buy em....MeowMix for dry food and a scoop of 9-Lives in the morning. I remember when they were kittens, I was going to feed them that "better" stuff....and I fed it to them...and they wouldnt touch it. So, they like what they like.

Skuzzy: One of my guys is prone to UTI's, he seems to have a fussy bladder. Thus the wet food scoop in the AM and PM. Not bad, with 2 cats, I go thru one can a day.

I really feel for those of you with sick pets. I never thought Id be a cat guy but these tards have a way of prying a spot in your heart.

myelo · « **Reply #41 on:** April 05, 2007, 08:11:16 AM »

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Originally posted by kamilyun
Would the tuna, turkey, ham work well for a younger cat (supplemented with dry food)? Don't want to cause problems for our 2nd cat.

They just go crazy over that stuff. Figured if that's what they want...

An all-meat diet is not a balanced diet for cats. The calcium:phosphorous ratio is way off, there aren't enough carbohydrates, potassium is too low, it's deficient in certain vitamins and depending on how much fat is in the meat, fatty acids may be insufficient. You didn't mention if this was cooked, but just in case, raw fish is bad for cats because it contains an enzyme that destroys thiamine and can lead to thiamine deficiency.

If you supplement with enough good quality dry food you can correct a lot of that. The problem with this approach is some cats will get where they only eat the meat and won't eat the other food.

In general, you're better off feeding a balanced diet instead of trying to fix an unbalanced diet with supplements.

storch · « **Reply #42 on:** April 05, 2007, 08:22:00 AM »

myelo how do feral cats survive? is their diet providing the necessary nutrients? the cats here eat whatever they can catch. we're on a lake that feeds directly from the everglades. I've seen them eating fish, lizards, mice and birds. the fish are partially consumed usually the viscera and the heads, the mice and lizards usually just the head. the birds are completely consumed. these cats live about five to six years on the average. I suspect they may be suffering from feline leukemia and they are also subject to predation. I think the bobcats occassional eat them.

Toad · « **Reply #43 on:** April 05, 2007, 09:03:49 AM »

Myelo, you seem to be pretty up on this small animal stuff. Are you a vet? If so, I'll probably try to pick your brain about some things. Always good to get a second opinion!

Rash · « **Reply #44 on:** April 05, 2007, 10:46:17 AM »

My cat eats mice, rats, birds and rabbits, sometimes she leaves the head, feathers, feet or stomach.

About two months ago, my sister lost an older mini pin to kidney failure. She has another small dog that is only half a year old and suffered no problems.