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Offline Sundowner

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« on: April 03, 2007, 07:07:07 PM »
Ok, ---did the forums search thang on "pets" and "food". No results So...

Concerning the poison pet food fiasco:

Saw a report about FDA findings on the toxin. The tainted "wheat gluten"was traced to two Chinese factories.(yup, old news)
But at the end of the report it was stated the FDA "declined" to name the Chinese company that owned the factories.

Declined?

No reason given or asked I suppose.

Wth?? So now the FDA comes right out and shows that the interests of foreign owned companies TRUMP the best interests of the American Consumer. (They used to call 'em customers, folks.)

Btw, this is an example of one of the failings of so called "free global trade".
We've outsourced our food staples, (Lot's of "wheat gluten" in foods for human consumption.) to nonUSA-regulated sources because it's cheaper to produce the stuff outside those pesky US health standards.

I'm not seeing this aspect covered by the main stream media.

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2007, 08:14:35 PM »
Didn't affect me, but I had a good friend who lost an old cat because of the food.  Sad thing too, the cat was pretty nice.
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2007, 08:19:57 PM »
Most pet food is crap.

Some of the premiums are decent and use "human grade" ingredients. They leave out the beaks, feet and feathers and use boned USDA approved chicken for example.

You need to read the labels.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2007, 08:29:12 PM »
US needs to stop importing everything and go back to making what it needs.
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2007, 08:42:59 PM »
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Most pet food is crap.

Some of the premiums are decent and use "human grade" ingredients. They leave out the beaks, feet and feathers and use boned USDA approved chicken for example.

You need to read the labels.


We feed our cats canned tuna (just buy the big can) and store brand sliced turkey.  Costs $4 a week instead of $3 a week.

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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2007, 09:34:33 PM »
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US needs to stop importing everything and go back to making what it needs.


And the US citizens need to enroll in basic economic classes.
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2007, 09:39:46 PM »
Yep, our government has been bought and sold to China.



Woodrow Wilson, 1919 in his memoirs

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I have unwittingly ruined my country.

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We are no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2007, 04:57:29 AM »
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Yep, our government has been bought and sold to China.



Woodrow Wilson, 1919 in his memoirs

"I am a most unhappy man.

I have unwittingly ruined my country.

A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit.

We are no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."


It seems so, Xargos.

I just thought that was an obscenely cavalier attitude that they "declined" to divulge critical info to their "masters" (They are, after all, public servants.) in deference to a foreign company's interest.

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2007, 05:34:31 AM »
Even the premium lables were affected by this.  IAMS and Science Diet, both had recalls.

kamilkun, if you only feed your cats tuna, you are killing them.  Toulene(sp?) is needed by cats for proper vision.  Without it, they will die prematurely.  It can only be found in red meat.  Just FYI.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2007, 08:12:57 AM »
why not feed your cats rodents and lizards?

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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2007, 08:46:16 AM »
Skuzzy, I hate to sound like a pet food snob but I don't think Hill's Science Diet or Eukanuba/Iams (same company) are premium foods.

Hill's Science Diet is a subsidiary of Colgate-Palmolive. Iams/Eukanuba is owned by Proctor & Gamble.

As far as I can see, none of the Eukanuba/Iams or Science Diet recipes are "human quality" foods.

Also, Eukanuba/Iams had serious problems not long ago with Ethoxyquin, a preservative they use. This stuff is bad ju-ju for a lot of dogs

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Ethoxyquin has been the most debated preservative used in dog food. Since it was first added to dog foods, many breeders and pet owners have told stories of sterility and decreased fertility; deformed puppies; periodontal disease; precancerous lesions of the liver, kidney and bladder; vaccine failure; and increased incidence of cataracts.

Ethoxyquin was originally approved by the FDA as a grain preservative intended for animals raised to be killed for food, and it was to be used no longer than 2 years. The safety of feeding it to dogs who live 10 to 12 years has never been proven, and the original studies run by the company who manufactured ethoxyquin were seriously flawed.

Other countries have conducted studies on ethoxyquin and found it to be unsafe for long-term use in dog food. There is now a petition before the FDA to withdraw its use from the dog food market. Although ethoxyquin is still used as preservatives in some foods, the trend today is for more foods to be naturally preserved. It seems as if the marketplace is responding to dog owner's needs.



Again, it pays to do a LOT of research on what you are feeding. I think there are far better foods than Eukanuba/Iams or Science Diet and they really don't cost any more or at least not significantly more. Maybe a few dollars a month.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2007, 09:49:30 AM »
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Originally posted by Toad
Most pet food is crap.

Some of the premiums are decent and use "human grade" ingredients. They leave out the beaks, feet and feathers and use boned USDA approved chicken for example.

You need to read the labels.


I asked my Dog. He likes the beaks and feathers thank you very much.

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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2007, 09:55:20 AM »
Okey-dokey Toad.  Sounds like we are talking more semantics than anything else.  Iams and Science Diet are both a better cut than many other brands, if only for the lack of sugar they put in thier food.

For hard food, I prefer to use Grand Cayman(sp?) for my cat.  Soft food, she gets 1/4 of a small can of IAMS daily.

What soft food do you like for your animals Toad?
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2007, 09:55:22 AM »
Yes,  I know when we used to have real cats,  they would try to eat everything they caught,  they didnt care if the part they were eating was breast meat:)

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2007, 10:33:28 AM »
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the failings of so called "free global trade"


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