hostage release

[Toad]

If I were the Brits, I'd now take the most powerful flotilla I could put together from ships already in the area and sail them all over the area where the marines/sailors were taken. I'd be in there about a month doing that.

I'd coordinate with the US CV groups in the area, so they had a plan ready just in case.

Then we'd see what the Iranians do about their claims to sovereignity when it's not a couple of rubber boats.

Oh yeah... I'd send films of the floatilla to Al Jaz just so none of the tough ole Muslims missed the news.

[Torque]

out maneuvered on the political and military field by a supposedly blabbering idiot, makes you wonder when they beat them at their own game of propaganda.

iran's problem, they act too much like the west.

[Edbert]

Originally posted by Toad
Then we'd see what the Iranians do about their claims to sovereignity when it's not a couple of rubber boats.

From what I understand there was a RN Destroyer overseeing the actions (boarding of the ship), as well a chopper and Harrier top-cover. Details as to how close to the "kidnapping" the support actually was are unclear for obvious reasons. But it SHOULD be safe to assume that the Royal Marine Corp does not carry paintball guns. I cannot explain why a bunch of diaper-hatted "revolutionary guards" in rubber rafts defeated the RMC without some sort of fight.

Maybe there's a good reason why they went after the Brits and not the USMC.

[Seagoon]

Hello Boroda,

Originally posted by Boroda
Really?

GPS coordinates monitored from where?

The GPS Coordinates that the IRANIANS originally supplied to the world press and in their diplomatic contacts with the West were clearly within IRAQI waters. When this was pointed out to them they released "adjusted" co-ords that put the Brits just over the line on the Iranian side.

The Iranians also blundered in diplomatic talks by giving the British their own compass reference for the place where they said the 14 men and one woman had been seized. When Britain plotted these on a map and pointed out that the spot was in Iraq’s maritime area, the Iranians came up with a new set of coordinates, putting the seizure in their own waters.

( Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article1582544.ece )

The GPS photos the British shot were taken on board the Dhow they had originally boarded which had been anchored in the same spot since the incident.

While many have been screaming that it was all the Brits fault because they shouldn't be in Iraq in the first place, only the most tenacious of Ahmadinejad supporters actually believe the adjusted Iranian coords that moved the incident over the line.

- SEAGOON

[namvet]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Why do I have a vision of Borat and the sound of his accent in my head when I read your posts?

Why do i have a vision of a giant talking sphincter in my head when I read your posts?  

[Ripsnort]

Awwww, Weasel is angry because I called him out, yet again. How many times and how many handles have you had banned now in your lifetime with HiTech Creations?

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Why do I have a vision of Borat and the sound of his accent in my head when I read your posts?

 

Estel can communicate with ATCs in Eng. I wonder if you, Rip, can do the same in Rus.

I was taught to speak Your language for 9 years, while Estel was trained to fly helicopters.

And pls no borat here. I hope we'll share some drinks one day, and our Kazakh friends will join us.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Eagler
I was wondering if the iranians kept their uniforms and if so why..

If "blue" side is right - then why the hall do they need any uniforms when they can arrest occupational force soldiers in Iraqi space??? And noone could oppose them!!!.....

[lazs2]

boroda... many of us speak spanish  but as a hobby or to communicate with our less fortunate neighbors..  

It is not a language you would use to get ahead.. English works much better for that...  very very few of us would have any use at all for russian..  we have few russians and no russian neighbors and there is no economic reason for it.   it would be a hobby language of little or no use to anyone not russian.

lazs

[Seagoon]

I know this will sound odd, but more guys in our congregation speak Russian than Spanish, and Arabic would be the second most common language - those of you familiar with SF will understand. Personally, Koine Greek and ancient Hebrew are my "business" languages...

[Estel]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Why do I have a vision of Borat and the sound of his accent in my head when I read your posts?

Change a head. Guess it will help. If it's not too late for you.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by lazs2
boroda... many of us speak spanish  but as a hobby or to communicate with our less fortunate neighbors..  

It is not a language you would use to get ahead.. English works much better for that...  very very few of us would have any use at all for russian..  we have few russians and no russian neighbors and there is no economic reason for it.   it would be a hobby language of little or no use to anyone not russian.

lazs

And besides, we won the cold war. You shall be assimilated.

[Edbert]

I got an answer to my question of why did the Royal Marines give up without a fight, and it was not due to being a neighbor of the French.

Official response from the so-called soldiers (paraphrased) was that they chose to surrender in order to avoid escalation in an already tense situation. Their decision was upheld by the top-brass as being the correct decision.

I'd love to say that a US soldier would not respond in such a way; but then I am reminded of the USNG guys who were armed and "guarding" our southern border. They were fired upon by men of an unknown origin/souce who came accross the border and chose to retreat without returning fire in order to make sure nobody got hurt.

I know it is already too late for the western part of the EU, but god save us all if that becomes the normal response for our "armed" forces.

[Maverick]

I imagine that the sudden and rather showy release of the Brits by amanidnutjob is a sign of the discord he has in his country. If he figured he had total control of the situation in iran he would have had no reason to release them so soon or in the manner that he did. There was still more political sway to build outside the country by keeping them. My guess is that he felt he could not keep them safe from the more radical elements in his government that wanted to put them on trial or "punish" them so he had to get them out of the country before that happened knowing the political chaos that would cause for his country internationally. He knows there is long precedent for maintaining international hostages and that if they were harmed in any way he could not hope to hold any outside business inte4rest in his country. They can't live secluded from the globe and that might just have happened with their neighbors blessing had harm come to the hostages.

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by namvet
Why do i have a vision of a giant talking sphincter in my head when I read your posts?  

because you're trying to read with your head up your...  Pull your head out  and its easier to read...