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« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2007, 08:16:01 PM »
This reminds me of Speaker Jim Wright in the 80's going to Nicaragua to apologize to Ortega for the US policy to his Soviet-Satellite-wannabe country
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« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2007, 10:00:19 PM »
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   As a Muslim, I fully understand respect of our religion by visiting US officials and I applaud that respect. Had Speaker Pelosi worn the Hijab inside a Mosque, this would have indicated respect but for Pelosi to wear it on the streets of Damascus all the while she is sitting with the self-imposed Baschar al-Assad who has come to symbolize oppression and one of the reasons why women are forced to wear the Hijab as they turn to religion to express their freedom is a statement of submittal not only to oppression but also to lack of women’s rights in the Middle East. Pelosi just reversed the work of the Syrian civil society and those who aspire for women’s freedom in the Muslim countries many years back with her visual statement. Her lack of experience of the Middle East is showing.


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« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2007, 11:23:44 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2007, 12:08:59 AM »
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Congress has a job.  Create laws and govern here, not political grandstanding in other countries.


Pelosi is next in line for the Executive Branch and considering all the health problems Cheney has, you'd be a little more supportive.

Frankly, I can't stand Pelosi but I see no problem with her going to Syria so long as she doesn't bring offer or promise them anything (ie dictate policy).
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« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2007, 10:12:50 AM »
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Frankly, I can't stand Pelosi but I see no problem with her going to Syria so long as she doesn't bring offer or promise them anything (ie dictate policy). - Delirium


I don't know how you can say that, Delirium.  The mere act of visiting a state that sponsers terrorism, against the wishes of the President of the United States of America is damaging in itself.  

When you add the fact that she is a loose cannon who is in so far over her head, amped up by left wing Californians, that she is missing subtleties of statesmenship and gravely misjudging the middle east.   Consider this:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1173879247562&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2007, 10:27:18 AM »
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04052007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/diplo_show_turns_into_damascus_a___kiss_opedcolumnists_john_podhoretz.htm

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Yesterday, following a meeting with Syria's tyrant in Damascus, Pelosi proudly informed the world that "I conveyed the message from [Israeli] Prime Minister [Ehud] Olmert that Israel is ready to restart negotiations as well as to talk peace."

Wow! Really?

Um, no.

Almost instantly, Olmert's office issued a clarification saying that Pelosi had mischaracterized Israel's position: The Jewish state will not negotiate with Syria until it ceases its sponsorship of terrorist organizations, stops destabilizing Lebanon and stops making common cause with Iran.

Whoops.


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Pelosi made it clear last week, when she first announced her controversial itinerary, that her purpose in traveling to the Middle East was far more than fact-finding.

 She was going to Damascus to open a new line of communication between the tyrannical Assad regime and the United States - a line of communication more appreciative of Syria's wants and needs than the Bush State Department has been.

In other words, she was effectively declaring herself a second secretary of State. Interesting. Isn't her current job challenging enough?

Or did she think it would help her rather steep learning curve as the speaker of the House to travel outside the United States, insert herself into a terrifically delicate diplomatic situation, and make a complete and total bellybutton of herself?

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« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2007, 10:40:05 AM »
Too bad we don't shoot traitors like back in the day.

If she was on fire and I had drank 10 beers I'd not even piss on her.
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« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2007, 10:59:16 AM »
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Originally posted by Delirium
Pelosi is next in line for the Executive Branch and considering all the health problems Cheney has, you'd be a little more supportive.

Frankly, I can't stand Pelosi but I see no problem with her going to Syria so long as she doesn't bring offer or promise them anything (ie dictate policy).


She is not the president.  She is going against the wishes of the President.  She also said she plans to open up a line of communication against the wishes of the administration.

Regardless of whether she is 2 nd in line to the Presidency, she still should not be in Syria with out Congressional Approval and especially not visiting a terrorist sponsoring country against the wishes of the President.

I reiterate that she is not a policy maker, but a lawmaker.
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« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2007, 11:17:43 AM »
CNN is pretty unpopular here, but some of y'all might find the screenshot from them here interesting:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/04/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-cnn/
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« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2007, 11:30:27 AM »
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Too bad we don't shoot traitors like back in the day.

If she was on fire and I had drank 10 beers I'd not even piss on her.
Traitors rank on the bottom even below child molesters.

Any questions?


So you would be happy to piss on the republican congressmen that were in Syria before her?

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« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2007, 11:34:39 AM »
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So you would be happy to piss on the republican congressmen that were in Syria before her?


why is it that 2 wrongs always make a right for the average dumbarsecrat?
strange defense eh..
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« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2007, 12:09:16 PM »
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CNN is pretty unpopular here, but some of y'all might find the screenshot from them here interesting:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/04/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-cnn/


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« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2007, 12:49:49 PM »
Here is the article I tried to link to, from The Jerusalem Post:

PMO denies peace message to Assad
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The Prime Minister's Office issued a rare "clarification" Wednesday that, in gentle diplomatic terms, contradicted US Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's statement in Damascus that she had brought a message from Israel about a willingness to engage in peace talks.

According to the statement, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert emphasized in his meeting with Pelosi on Sunday that "although Israel is interested in peace with Syria, that country continues to be part of the Axis of Evil and a force that encourages terror in the entire Middle East."

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Pelosi tells Assad: Israel ready to talk
Olmert, the statement clarified, told Pelosi that Syria's sincerity about a genuine peace with Israel would be judged by its willingness to "cease its support of terror, cease its sponsoring of the Hamas and Islamic Jihad organizations, refrain from providing weapons to Hizbullah and bringing about the destabilizing of Lebanon, cease its support of terror in Iraq, and relinquish the strategic ties it is building with the extremist regime in Iran."

The statement said Olmert had not communicated to Pelosi any change in Israeli policy on Damascus.

Pelosi, who met in Damascus with Syrian President Bashar Assad over the objections of US President George W. Bush, said she brought a message to Assad from Olmert saying that Israel was ready for peace talks.

"We were very pleased with the reassurances we received from the president [Assad] that he was ready to resume the peace process. He was ready to engage in negotiations for peace with Israel," Pelosi said after meeting Assad.

She said the meeting with the Syrian leader "enabled us to communicate a message from Prime Minister Olmert that Israel was ready to engage in peace talks as well."

According to officials in the Prime Minister's Office, however, this was not what transpired during her meeting with Olmert.

The officials said Olmert had told Pelosi that he thought her trip to Damascus was a mistake, and that when she asked - nevertheless - whether he had a message for Assad, Olmert said Syria should first stop supporting terrorism and "act like a normal country," and only then would Israel be willing to hold discussions.

The first part of that message, the officials said, was lost in what was reported from Damascus on Wednesday.

Pelosi said the congressional delegation she led raised the issue of kidnapped IDF soldiers Gilad Schalit, Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev and conveyed "the importance of Syria's role in promoting peace between the Palestinians and the Israelis." She also said she had pressed Assad on Syrian support for Hamas and Hizbullah.

In a related development, Bahrain's Foreign Minister Sheikh Khalid Bin Ahmed al-Khalifa told the Bahrain daily Al-Ayam on Tuesday that the Riyadh Arab League summit set up "panels to communicate with all influential parties, including Israel, to activate the Arab Peace Initiative."

According to the Bahrain News Agency, Khalifa said the Arab League has formed "working teams to communicate with all parties, including Israel, the United Nations, the US, China and the European Union."
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« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2007, 12:50:58 PM »
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why is it that 2 wrongs always make a right for the average dumbarsecrat?
strange defense eh..


Not sure what you mean. He asked if there were any questions. I just wanted to clarify the likely locations of any urine in case of a fire..... sheesh.

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« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2007, 08:57:53 AM »
even if she was not completely wrong in the visit..  You got to admit that she really botched it about as bad as anyone could.. she embarrassed herself and world leaders... she came very close to causing an "incident" between Israel and syria.

she is pretty much a klutz.

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