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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2007, 02:40:15 AM »
The next thing your gonna tell me is Ben Afflek didn't fight in every major battle of WW2!
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2007, 03:15:14 AM »
300 is based on a comic book.  Entertainment purposes only.

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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2007, 04:00:18 AM »
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300 is based on a comic book.  Entertainment purposes only.

I didn't know that. I didn't come to learn history, it's just that I don't really like fantasy. It just felt to me like really bad taste that didn't contribute anything. The sex scences were also pointless, except the usual added value of a pretty naked girl. But this is the 21st century, we have the internet for that... :)
True, nice fight scences though.

The only fantasy books I ever enjoyed was Lord of the rings and Hobbit, I never finished anything else. This is probably why I also don't like "fantasy" movies.

With therapy and time, I may get over the shock... :p
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2007, 01:14:57 PM »
Never ever forget the truism about hollywierd. Never let the truth get in the way of a story.
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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2007, 04:20:53 PM »
So nobody watches previews anymore? I find peoples' surprise and outrage to be a little... umm... surprising and outrageous. :rolleyes:

Do people really have such a hard time separating real-life from fantasy?
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2007, 05:33:01 PM »
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I hear the next historical movie will be about the battle of Britain. Never in the history of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few elves in golden spitfires that fought rugged, all steel Messerschmidts driven by nazi orcs.


Orcs? pffffff... Everyone knows the Luftwaffe used gargoyles numpty...

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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2007, 06:15:35 PM »
I thought this was funny....bunch of photoshopped 300 pictures.

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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2007, 06:40:29 PM »
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Never ever forget the truism about hollywierd. Never let the truth get in the way of a story.
but I am surprised that hollywierd did not try to play up the brokeback elements of the spartans for all its worth
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2007, 10:15:29 PM »
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I never go to hollywood to get a history lesson.


Yep.

I thought the movie was aight. I agree with Bozon's critique with regards to the fantasy element. I thought it was a better movie without it. But eh, whatever. Worth the price of admition in my opinion.

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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2007, 07:15:32 AM »
bozon,

I share your disgust with films that pretend to be based on the historical record and have nothing to do with it.  I haven't seen 300, but I probably won't given what I've heard about the embellishment.  

Dowding,

You have a good point that the absolute accuracy of ancient historians is often in question.  Still, from what I've heard of 300 it takes liberty to run miles away from anything the ancients ever recorded.  I have no problem with fantasy, but when it confuses itself with history (Last Samurai) I have a big objection.  Historical inaccuracy is a valid criticism in films that act like they are historical works.  

laser and grunherz,

I don't care if this version is based off a comic book, it has presented itself as historical in its publicity and that is just not cool for me.  Too few people now a days have a real appreciation for history.  It's hard to encourage good historical perception when you have terentino, cruise and many others caching in on psudo-history.  

I caution you in thinking Letters from Iwo Jima was completely a historical film.  It was Clint Eastwood's presentation of history, and while I agree with his presentation, it is only that.  It is not actually what it was like on Iwo Jima.  Nothing can be.  The difference between Eastwood's film and some of the other farce-history films is that Eastwood acknowledged fully that he was making a presentation, and kept as closely as possible in a cinematic format to the historical record.  If you watch the credits you will see actual images from the battle that Eastwood has directly portrayed in the film.  Still, it is only a portrayal.  Wonderful, but it can never be complete.  

Goth said it best with, "I never go to hollywood to get a history lesson."
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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2007, 08:22:17 AM »
A 10th grade history teacher here in my county is giving extra credit to his class for going to see "300". He is telling the kids it's based on facts.  It really worries me what it will be like when my daughter is old enough to be in that class.


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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2007, 10:30:07 AM »
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A 10th grade history teacher here in my county is giving extra credit to his class for going to see "300". He is telling the kids it's based on facts.  It really worries me what it will be like when my daughter is old enough to be in that class.


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Thinking the Persian Army consists of Orcs is probably the least of your concerns when it comes to public education :)

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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2007, 11:06:41 AM »
300 was an awesome flick. Pure entertainment with some Greeks kicking some ass. I dont understand how one likes gladiator and not 300. 300 was far ore entertaining. To each his own I guess.

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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2007, 11:39:20 AM »
the whole movie looked like a comic, the enviroment, the colors all
looks so unreal.
Compared to Gladiator, 300 is fast food, its an FX movie, blood splater
everywhere like in kill bill hehe

it was entertaining tho.
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