Which B-25 Variant?

[96Delta]

Pyro,

Now that the election is over and the hanging chads
have been counted, can you give us some idea of
which variant you plan to model?

Will other variants follow or are we looking at a
single B-25 variant in the game?

Thanks!  

David

EDIT
Sorry, didn't know this had been discussed before
here.
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202851

[tedrbr]

Pyros words:

I'd like to see the C, H, and J in that order. Whether all of those can make the next version will depend on how fast it goes to make the shapes.

This link http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202851

[Warspawn]

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Yummy; 75mm under the quad .50's in the nose, then 6 more in blisters and the top turret for a total of 10...

"The 75mm gun was the lighter T13E1 which had been designed specifically for the B-25H.  It also mounted four fixed forward-firing .50-calibre machine guns in the nose, four more fixed ones in forward-firing "blister" mounts on the fuselage sides, two more in the top turret, one each in a pair of new waist positions, and a final two in a new tail gunner's position.  Company promotional material bragged that the B-25H could "bring to bear ten machine guns coming and four going, in addition to the 75mm cannon, a brace of eight rockets and 3000 pounds of bombs."  Fourteen hundred B-25Gs and B-25Hs were built.  The 75mm cannon fired at a muzzle velocity of 2,362 fps, about 720 m/s.  Due to its low rate of fire approximately four shells could be fired in a single strafing run..."

Can't wait to try this versus the usual hangar pad/runway squatters who park their osties there and .ef anytime they hear the whistle of bombs overhead.  4 shots at them while I'm on my inbound run while a squaddie gets them tracking and firing away from me should be enough.  Good stuff to up while Panzers are approaching your base and ord is out...

[tedrbr]

Those "4 shells fired in a single strafing run" (and Company promotional material to boot) were often against Sampans.  It was intended and used in anti-shipping operations.  I also believe the pilots in the field had different thoughts on the 75mm after trying to make it work.

Firing the 75mm on a B-25 did very bad things to the airframe.  Some field conversions to the 75mm resulted in scrapped airframes in as little as 20 shots fired, due to rivet holes rounding out and stressed members.

The 75mm could only be reloaded when not pulling G's with the plane.  It was manually loaded.  Loader going to have a hard time handling a 75mm round if the plane is pulling 3, 4 or more G's.

Many 75mm equipped B-25's were field modified with more .50's in place of the 75mm.  It was found that many banks of .50's with API, bombs, and rockets were better in strafing roles, than using the 75mm.

It was also said to be very hard to aim.  This is against ships, and when USAAF had air superiority over the target.   Figure a tank may be a bit harder to hit, especially with many enemy planes in the area.

I think some players are expecting way too much out of the next AHII plane.  Should prove interesting.

[Warspawn]

Originally posted by tedrbr
Those "4 shells fired in a single strafing run" (and Company promotional material to boot) were often against Sampans.  

That part wasn't in the company promotional material.  If the Japanese had a significant armored force deployed, you can bet the 75mm would be used against them.

Firing the 75mm on a B-25 did very bad things to the airframe.  Some field conversions to the 75mm resulted in scrapped airframes in as little as 20 shots fired, due to rivet holes rounding out and stressed members.

That's why Pyro's modeling the H instead of the G; different cannon (the T13E1), special for the H model.   "Some field conversions to the 75mm" is not what we're dealing with here.

The 75mm could only be reloaded when not pulling G's with the plane.  It was manually loaded.  Loader going to have a hard time handling a 75mm round if the plane is pulling 3, 4 or more G's.

I don't really fire much at gv's when pulling 3 or 4 g's   There's lots of things that we're unable to model much in AHII; look at the tread at the Pony's inverted flight problem.  One shot every 3 seconds or so should be fine; and close to historical accuracy.  That's about what's minimum for an Abram's loader bouncing over terrain at 50mph.

Many 75mm equipped B-25's were field modified with more .50's in place of the 75mm.  It was found that many banks of .50's with API, bombs, and rockets were better in strafing roles, than using the 75mm.

Against sampans.  But heck, adding a bunch of .50's would at least let you get enough damage vs. the GV to be awarded the kill when someone finally hits it with a 75 or 88mm.  

Then again, we don't see any field modifications being flown in Aces High.  Although that P-38 would be fun with all those extra .50's.