Author Topic: Whats gonna happen to Don Imus? (Read 3930 times)

john9001 · « **Reply #75 on:** April 11, 2007, 01:10:30 PM »

i always call other euro-americans "honky".

"hey, honky, whats up?" is a common greeting among us euro-americans. It's part of our white culture.

x0847Marine · « **Reply #76 on:** April 11, 2007, 01:39:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
The United States Constitution backs up my previous post xMarine. Fight it all you want, he should have left his racial stereotypes around his dining room table.

I don't live in a world with "color". I'll never show arrogance, but I will laugh at those who pretend that they are.

Show me where in the Constitution one is protected from being called a "nappy ho", or insulted in general. Its not a civil rights violation, if it were most rappers would be outlaws.. which is CENSORSHIP.

And its not for you or anyone to decide where Imus, or any person in the US, should or shouldn't voice their legal free opinion (speech).. even if it makes a few people cry and you don't like it.. even the KKK has a right to voice their opinion.

All this manufactured "moral outrage" is a farce, cant you see how phony this all is? can you honestly say with all the rappers & comedians out there who say much worse dozens of times every day... that 2 sentences from a radio jock is worth all this drama?

Nothing happened except that a radio guy who has a comedy show exercised his right to free speech by cracking a joke a few people didn't like... Imus has made a career of clowning Sharpton & Jeckson et al, now its "pay back" time.

BTW whatever you do, DO NOT WATCH HBOs "Bad boys of comedy", these guys make Imus sound like the Pope... I wouldnt want you or any uber sensitive person to die of shock. But the comedians were all black so you wont be seeing Al Sharpton or the other usual moral outrage victims complaining.

BTW · « **Reply #77 on:** April 11, 2007, 02:00:50 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
.. I have no problem with all women in America filing a class action lawsuit. Maybe you can spearhead that one.

I thought conservatives were all about common sense?

Yea you do. You think its quite alright for rap stars to use the word "ho" but wrong for a white entertainer to use the word. You made that apparent and tried to justify it with some nonsense about "general" and direct insults. When called on it you just ignored it. You have to ignore it because the position that rap stars and black comedians can say it, but white talk show hosts can't, is *INDEFESIBLE* No logic can support that lunacy.

Shuffler · « **Reply #78 on:** April 11, 2007, 02:05:21 PM »

Poor guy makes a mistake, not racist remark.... and all the racists jump on him about it. Sad... he should look into his backgraound and find out if he has any black relatives.... then he can say anything he wants with no worry of censorship.

Anyone look into sharpton...... and where he came into the limelight.... I think you'll be surprised at his track record of racism.

bustr · « **Reply #79 on:** April 11, 2007, 04:08:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
I still want to know if I declare myself on "Nappy Duty" if I'm gonna be considered racist by my squaddies.

Vulcan,

The day I didn't get a racism letter in my work history because a co-worker of Sub-Saharan African decent 400 years removed, born in Oakland CA was offended by over hearing that my sister's black husband's family called me a "White African American Spear Chukker" because I was born in Africa and threw javalin in college.

The only things I could take away from the HR intrvention hearing was the following:

1. White people are unconsiously racist (like being born in original sin) and given time will reveil themselves unknown to themselves that they are racist in the most innocent of their sentance structures when in the presence of non-whites.

2. White people cannot use any words in any combination no matter how innocent in their consious mind that might be missunderstood, constrewed, or otherwise lead a non-white person to think you have impuned them racially.

3. HR departments in the U.S. won't publish a pamphlet of racist No No words for white employees only due to it being a violation of several constitutional rights. I asked in the spirit of making amends so I could make myself a better emplyoe.

4. Non-White speech is protected by a Super Shadow copy of the constitution I'm not allowed to read.

So Vulcan it only takes one person to misunderstand your usage of the word nappy to get you in trouble..........but I have noticed Hitech and Co. have shown a reasonable command of the diverse peoples and cultural backgrounds playing in their sandbox........

Kuhn · « **Reply #80 on:** April 11, 2007, 04:25:07 PM »

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Originally posted by bustr
Vulcan,

The day I didn't get a racism letter in my work history because a co-worker of Sub-Saharan African decent 400 years removed, born in Oakland CA was offended by over hearing that my sister's black husband's family called me a "White African American Spear Chukker" because I was born in Africa and threw javalin in college.

The only things I could take away from the HR intrvention hearing was the following:

1. White people are unconsiously racist (like being born in original sin) and given time will reveil themselves unknown to themselves that they are racist in the most innocent of their sentance structures when in the presence of non-whites.

2. White people cannot use any words in any combination no matter how innocent in their consious mind that might be missunderstood, constrewed, or otherwise lead a non-white person to think you have impuned them racially.

3. HR departments in the U.S. won't publish a pamphlet of racist No No words for white employees only due to it being a violation of several constitutional rights. I asked in the spirit of making amends so I could make myself a better emplyoe.

4. Non-White speech is protected by a Super Shadow copy of the constitution I'm not allowed to read.

Isn't it funny how deep it can get? I guess we can't all just get along.

TwinBoom · « **Reply #81 on:** April 11, 2007, 06:37:50 PM »

there are bigger problems in the world like soldiers dieng
who cares what the tard said "dont like it dont listen"..simple

BTW · « **Reply #82 on:** April 11, 2007, 07:13:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Shuffler
Poor guy makes a mistake, not racist remark.... and all the racists jump on him about it. Sad... he should look into his backgraound and find out if he has any black relatives.... then he can say anything he wants with no worry of censorship.

Anyone look into sharpton...... and where he came into the limelight.... I think you'll be surprised at his track record of racism.

Well lets post it. This is Sharpton's legacy:

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1987: Sharpton spreads the incendiary Tawana Brawley hoax, insisting heatedly that a 15-year-old black girl was abducted, raped, and smeared with feces by a group of white men. He singles out Steve Pagones, a young prosecutor. Pagones is wholly innocent -- the crime never occurred -- but Sharpton taunts him: "If we're lying, sue us, so we can . . . prove you did it." Pagones does sue, and eventually wins a $345,000 verdict for defamation. To this day, Sharpton refuses to recant his unspeakable slander or to apologize for his role in the odious affair.

1991: A Hasidic Jewish driver in Brooklyn's Crown Heights section accidentally kills Gavin Cato, a 7-year-old black child, and antisemitic riots erupt. Sharpton races to pour gasoline on the fire. At Gavin's funeral he rails against the "diamond merchants" -- code for Jews -- with "the blood of innocent babies" on their hands. He mobilizes hundreds of demonstrators to march through the Jewish neighborhood, chanting, "No justice, no peace." A rabbinical student, Yankel Rosenbaum, is surrounded by a mob shouting "Kill the Jews!" and stabbed to death.

1995: When the United House of Prayer, a large black landlord in Harlem, raises the rent on Freddy's Fashion Mart, Freddy's white Jewish owner is forced to raise the rent on his subtenant, a black-owned music store. A landlord-tenant dispute ensues; Sharpton uses it to incite racial hatred. "We will not stand by," he warns malignantly, "and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business." Sharpton's National Action Network sets up picket lines; customers going into Freddy's are spat on and cursed as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms." Some protesters shout, "Burn down the Jew store!" and simulate striking a match. "We're going to see that this cracker suffers," says Sharpton's colleague Morris Powell. On Dec. 8, one of the protesters bursts into Freddy's, shoots four employees point-blank, then sets the store on fire. Seven employees die in the inferno.

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Source is here
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=2411

Lets make it clear, Sharpton has a legacy of promoting murder, but doing so in a "vague" or general] sense.

Perhaps we should pull up his divisive, bigoted remarks in the Duke case?

bj229r · « **Reply #83 on:** April 11, 2007, 07:41:41 PM »

Ann weighs in:

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The reason people don't like what Imus said was because the women on the Rutgers basketball team aren't engaged in public discourse. They're not public figures, they don't have a forum, they aren't trying to influence public policy.

They play basketball — quite well, apparently — and did nothing to bring on an attack on their looks or character. It's not the words Imus used: It would be just as bad if he had simply said the Rutgers women were ugly and loose.

People claim to object to the words alone, but that's because everyone is trying to fit this incident into a PC worldview. It's like girls who say, "It's not that you cheated on me; it's that you lied about it." No — it's that you cheated.

If Imus had called me a "towheaded ho" or Al Sharpton a "nappy-headed ho," it would be what's known as "funny." (And if he called Anna Nicole Smith a "flaxen-headed ho," it would be "absolutely accurate.") But he attacked the looks and morals of utterly innocent women, who had done nothing to inject themselves into public debate.

Imus should apologize to the Rutgers women — and those women alone — send them flowers, and stop kissing Al Sharpton's ring.

This wasn't an insult to all mankind, and certainly not an insult to Al Sharpton. Now, if Imus had called the basketball players "fat, race-baiting black men with clownish hairstyles," well, then perhaps Sharpton would be owed an apology.
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Reasonable critique--I like Imus on most levels (notable exceptions being his leftward drift since his arrival at MSNBC and his marriage to a Manhattan limousine liberal). But as of 6pm today, he is no longer allowed to work in America, while AL Sharpton continues to be a race pimp--can't @$@%%% beLIEVE he went on Sharpton's show:mad:

Chairboy · « **Reply #84 on:** April 12, 2007, 08:27:31 AM »

Colbert touched on this, good stuff:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/11/colbert-does-damage-control-for-his-own-on-air-racial-slur/

midnight Target · « **Reply #85 on:** April 12, 2007, 08:37:46 AM »

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Originally posted by BTW
Yea you do. You think its quite alright for rap stars to use the word "ho" but wrong for a white entertainer to use the word. You made that apparent and tried to justify it with some nonsense about "general" and direct insults. When called on it you just ignored it. You have to ignore it because the position that rap stars and black comedians can say it, but white talk show hosts can't, is *INDEFESIBLE* No logic can support that lunacy.

I took a deep breath before posting.

Please don't ASS-U-ME that I agree with something simply because I ignore it. I think Sharpton is a tool. I think Snoop dog is a tool. I think Gangsta Rap is chuck full of tools. I also think Sharpton et.al. completely lost the high ground when he mentioned using the "airwaves" to spread this kind of "sexist" message. Unless he gets out on the bandwagon and starts denouncing misogynistic rap songs he has no message to give.

I also wrote that I felt Imus' apology should have been sufficient. AND I wrote that there is a difference between general and specific attacks. So spew all you want, but I think you have the wrong guy here.

Yknurd · « **Reply #86 on:** April 12, 2007, 08:40:42 AM »

Three snaps with a twirl at the end.

You go MT.

Bucky73 · « **Reply #87 on:** April 12, 2007, 10:01:27 AM »

If it weren't for people like Don Imus then morons like Sharpton and Jackson wouldn't have a "job" (for lack of a better word).

These (self-appointed) representitives of the black community do nothing but look for stuff like this every day so they can scream racism and get their face's on tv.

I'm not a Imus fan and what he said was probably inappropriate but talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill!!

Surely there is more important things to talk about in the news... I mean my god CNN actually interrupted their 24 hour coverage of Anna Nicole and American Idol ............................. ..........................

Sad

RightF00T · « **Reply #88 on:** April 12, 2007, 10:26:19 AM »

I'm sorry but I'm really failing to see Imus's comments and how they relate to rappers. Everyone always cries "BUT THE RAPPERS DO IT!". Do you really think a musician speaks for everyone of his race? Can the Neo-Nazi twin sisters that spout racial hatred be used to represent what White America thinks? I didn't think so. And the funny thing is, these rappers that supposedly have wide-spread influence are only in the place they are because a majority White label-head gives them the go-ahead with their lyrics. So these guys only get put on, based on what White America wants to see(I can find stats that prove that suburban youths are the highest purchasers of rap music).

EDIT: Not to say some don't already speak this way, but *someone* has to allow/call for these words to be mass-produced.

I agree this situation isnt exactly a perfect example of racism(alot of black people cringe whenever Sharpton or Jackson get involved in well....anything), but as someone in his position on a show viewed by millions(a stretch?) it's a bit insane to think he shouldnt get some kind of punishment for publicly slandering a group. IMO, race has nothing to do with this except for in the context he said it. If Al Roker was reviewing a gymnastic competition and said "Oh those cracker $#@! right there, they're obviously on a coke diet" I would expect outcry from their parents, the gymnasts, and everyone else who thought it was out of line.

Yknurd · « **Reply #89 on:** April 12, 2007, 12:13:44 PM »

RightFOOT,

I've seen black people on tee. vee.

And they ALL act like that. You know, using the N-word. And holding their privates. All of them.