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Offline Boroda

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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2007, 08:35:57 AM »
One of the tree worst leaders in the whole Russian history, stands in line with Nikolay II and Gorby.

Give me any examples of what he touched and didn't pathetically **** up. Some of his deeds are still hidden from public and probably will never be disclosed, lile Uranium deal with the US.

 I got aquainted with his wisdom when he was a First Secretary in Moscow Party commeetee, when he started a campaign in Moscow city press against "specialised" schools, like the one where I studied, with deep studies of English language. We were labeled "golden youth", parasites, speculants and drug addicts, "kids from rich families". Fortunately he got kicked out of his position before he could desrtoy this system.

They are going to bury him at Novodevichye cemetary, so this creature will lay in the same land with Pokryshkin and other decent people... I wonder if they have enough space there, of maybe one day they'll remove Pokryshkin's grave to bury another crooked "fighter with communism".

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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2007, 09:56:43 AM »
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Yeltsin liberated Moskovskaya Pravda, the local party newspaper, whose reporters began to produce probing articles about sensitive local issues such as special schools for the children of Party members. When the nomenklatura elitists argued that they work so hard they deserve their special cars, clinics, and stores, Yeltsin sneered and called them "an inert layer of time-servers with Party cards." But when he launched personnel shakeups and mass firings of Party regulars, he ran head-on into their Kremlin champion, Cadre Commissar Ligachev.

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From reading that info, he sounds like a force of nature. We're all aware of his many faults but give the man the credit he is due.

He bulldozed his way through the communistic system.

Boroda, from what I've gleamed from your posts, you were one of the privileged ones, the son of some Party member with influence. As such I can see why you view the present as bad and those who worked against communism as even worse. You had something, both in material and in terms of prestige and it was lost when the Soviet Union ground itself into failure.

For every have, there were a thousand have-nots. The situation in Russia both economically and politically certainly isn't super but to my eyes at least now there's a chance of success outside of the approved Party ways.

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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2007, 10:29:05 AM »
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Originally posted by StSanta
Boroda, from what I've gleamed from your posts, you were one of the privileged ones, the son of some Party member with influence. As such I can see why you view the present as bad and those who worked against communism as even worse. You had something, both in material and in terms of prestige and it was lost when the Soviet Union ground itself into failure.


Party members with influence...! I am a son of an officer.

Party membership didn't mean that you got all the goodies for nothing, usually it meant more responsibility. Father was a Party member since 1950, longer then Gorby, and he has nothing to be ashamed of.

I studied with kids from all social groups, from diplomatic corps families to ordinary engineers on 120r/month living in "communal" flats.

It was just Yeltsin's attempt to gain cheap popularity, making local papers (not only Moskovskaya Pravda, that in fact remained the silliest Party-line leaflet among the others) publish articles full of bull**** and hatered towards "nomenclatura", like saying that in our school you can easiy buy illegal drugs in a bathroom.

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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2007, 10:53:06 AM »
Gorby was bad too?

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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2007, 11:26:06 AM »
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Gorby was bad too?


Bad for whom? For the West he definetly was very-very good, "the Best German".

I suppose you don't object that I mentioned the last Emperor too?

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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2007, 04:13:58 PM »
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I wish he died in prison.

I  wonder where they are  going to bury him.


Yes, preferably in a cell together with Gorby, while some Leonid ruled the fall-apart USSR in the old-fashioned way.

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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2007, 04:32:09 PM »
I can't say anything about him since I never met him. I can say he looked more human than the "death's right hand" guy they have now, Putin is an evil looking dude, him & the pope go together like peas & carrots.