thx Banshee7 and hats off to your first attempt Weazely. very nice! I think it came out better than mine actually. I'm having trouble getting my colors to come out right. It ends up looking too toonish. The glass on the 24 looks alright and decently 3d but the rest doesn't cut it. Did you have help from a certain tutorial you can point me too or was it trial and error?