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Offline Pacifica

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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2007, 12:23:27 AM »
I usually use a P-51, and come from 6'oclock High, then zoom out to his 3'oclock, attack from his 3 high...

Lances are pretty easy -  I almost feel guilty sometimes. Wimpy .30 cals and only three of them....  no match for well armored fighters with lots of speed...

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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2007, 12:36:53 AM »
G14 or K4, 30mm.

Aim for the cockpit.

If I have more time to climb the 190 A8 with either 4x20's and 2x20's and 2x30's.

The 110 G2 can be a blast too.

If I know some of those crazy Finns are inbound with  40 bombers or so I usually grab a 262 and wait for em.

262 allows me to get away from their intoxicated breaths without passing out.
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2007, 01:00:34 AM »
I prefer the 110G2 or the 190A8 but I'll go after them in anything including a Hurri I (which I've had surprising success with).  

In the 190 or 110 I try to get above them and come in fast from their six crossing right to left.  I'll usually take the right drone and the lead bomber and sometimes get all three on the first pass.  I often take lead but usually not enough to take me down.

In lesser gunned planes I come in from their high six and concentrate on the right drone first, repeat for the other drone then finally go for the lead buff.
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2007, 01:14:33 AM »
6x12 are bane of bombers :aok Only 4x20 are better. Just dont shoot in fuselage, shoot in wings or pilot if you can aim well.
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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2007, 06:33:45 AM »
i've made 10 or more kill sorties in my 51D. 50 cals are the best way to kill buffs because you get so much ammo, and if you set up your attack right, a small burst will blow a buff up.

get alt above them and attack from high 6. you get a nice approach angle, a big profile to hit, and you can kill the pilot from that angle. aim at the front of a fuselage, it's an easy shot to lead. 1 sec burst and the thing blows

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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2007, 07:12:22 AM »
10mins intercept: 109K4, climb with WEP. Slashing attacks from the sides, aim for cockpit or wingroots.

Anti-Buff patrol: 190A8 with 4x20mm, either high 6, slashing or HO attacks. Or Pony B/D, high 6 with sufficient speed, aim for cockpit.
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2007, 07:33:54 AM »
Any 190, or any 109 with  gondala's.  

One method i I like is to attack them from head on and a little above,  since 9/10 times there in the tail guns waiting for the guys chasing them to get into range.

1 pass 1 kill. Either killing the pilot or setting him ablaze.  

Split-S underneath them, extend, then immelman head on into them again.
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« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2007, 07:54:18 AM »
As you can see in this thread so far, Pacifica, there is not one "perfect" technique, plane or ammo to get the job done, and return home safely.

Every bomber has weak points that can be exploited.

- The top gunner position in B-24's has a weak view of an attacker diving from a front, 12 o'clock high position, and only 1 set of guns per plane can be brought to bear on the attacker. A solid burst to a wing root will set them on fire. They will explode later, so pressing the attack any further on a flaming B-24 isn't necessary. Focus on flaming the remaining planes in the formation.

- Lancasters have only .303 caliber ammo in all gun positions, except rear gunner. They are vulnerable to low, front quarter attacks, again because of only one (weak ammo) gun position available to track and fire at you.

- B-17s share the sole top gun vulnerability of the B-24, but may not light up as easily.

- Ki-67s and B-26s share what I'll call a "sweet spot" attack vulnerability - a slashing attack from the side that traverses just below the track of the top gun until the last few hundred yards.

A good gunner will dispatch you quickly if you make a predictable, straight in approach across a path where multiple gun locations can track you.

You may want to tailor your attack to the prey, studying them to determine your technique, rather than using one technique against all types of bombers. Fly each of the bombers and defend yourself as a gunner, and you'll discover their weakness first hand.

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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2007, 09:52:41 AM »
Bf-109 G-6/R-2

The R2 conversion I aim at the center bomber from 800 yards. The rest is history...

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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2007, 09:57:13 AM »
Only, you get shot to watermelon at 800 yards because you're in a dead6 tail chase.

P.S. those WGr 21s have a range of between 1.2 and 1.4k, from all the tests I've done. You fire at 800 and I think they'll go past the bomber formation (unless you get lucky and they impact)

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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2007, 10:02:14 AM »
well if 999000 is in the bombers your screwed any ways.
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2007, 10:11:36 AM »
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well if 999000 is in the bombers your screwed any ways.


Id say 999000 & I are runnin 60/40, maybe 65/35,  somewhere in there. But he does have the bigger piece:D .
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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2007, 10:25:13 AM »
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Only, you get shot to watermelon at 800 yards because you're in a dead6 tail chase.

P.S. those WGr 21s have a range of between 1.2 and 1.4k, from all the tests I've done. You fire at 800 and I think they'll go past the bomber formation (unless you get lucky and they impact)


I used to get kills with those all the time, including vs. running fighters but a long time ago they made a change in the rocket speed or something... I havent been able to hit anything with them.

I actually have had hits with 5" HVARS against bombers but nothing with the rockets designed for the job.
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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2007, 10:27:13 AM »
when im going to take down a bomber its either a hurri 3,  typhoon, temp,
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« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2007, 10:28:56 AM »
110 with 50%, DT and 2x Mg151/20 and 2x Mk108 attack HO the first pass and anywhere except from 6 the nexy two passes. once your done killing buffs go find some fighters.
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