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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2007, 07:45:30 PM »
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What's that port above the MGs?

Guncam?

Yes, that is where the Mossie's gun cam is located.  It used G42 or G45 cameras.
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2007, 03:35:38 AM »
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That is not a small list.

Not only a long list but it also include some key areana planes: Spitfires, 109Gs, Ki84 and F4U. 20 mph is a little optimistic perhaps, but every mph will be appreciated. Getting rid of the swinging tail and deep stalls due to CoG is even more important. Not to mention it turns the combat-trim to a death device for those who use it. Those are real game breakers.
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2007, 12:07:12 PM »
Ok, here is a 10mph gain to 347mph list (and every Mossie pilot I've spoken with says it could hold over 350mph on the deck, so this is low I think):

Bf109G-2
Bf109G-6
Fw190A-5
P-38J
P-38L
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-40
Ki-84-Ia
Spitfire Mk VIII
Spitfire Mk XVI


Even the pessimistic list has some major players in it, P-38J and L, Ki-84 and Spits 8 and 16.

More realistically we could expect a deck speed in the 350 to 355mph range.

All of this hinges, of course, on HTC finding new data about it.
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2007, 06:03:53 PM »
347 seems spot on according to reports,seems to have a sharp rise in speed below 4k showing 352 around 3k.

Although,it mentioned this plane may have had more drag than ussual:noid
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2007, 07:52:27 PM »
I heard 7-11 mph myself, but I'll even take that with a CoG fix.

Make sure you arent quoting the speed loss from the matt black paint they ended up not using on the Mossie NFs, it had too much drag and they went back to a semi-gloss black finish.
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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2007, 01:35:51 AM »
"All of this hinges, of course, on HTC finding new data about it."

Aircraft and Armament Experimental Establishment Boscombe Down.

Mosquito FB. Mk. VI. HJ.679 (2 Merlin 25's) Brief Performance trials.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mosquito/hj679.pdf

De Haviland Aircraft Co. Ltd. Hatfield Aerodrome 20 September 1943.

D. H. Mosquito Mk. VI. (Merlin 25) HJ.679.

Tests carried out at Hatfield to check the Maximum Level Speed obtained in previous tests.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mosquito/hj679-dh.pdf

Aircraft and Armament Experimental Establishment Boscombe Down 1 February 1944

Mosquito FB. Mk. VI. HX.809 (2 Merlin 25's)

Level speed performance at normal & increased boost rating.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mosquito/hx809.pdf

Mosquito FB VI Tactical Trials.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mosquito/Mosquito-VI-tactical.pdf

Mosquito speeds at +18lbs and +25lbs boost.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mosquito/mosquito-performance-aussie.pdf

Rolls-Royce single stage two speed Merlin, power chart.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mosquito/merlin25-powercurve.jpg

Mosquito FB VI Pilot’s notes engine operating data.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mosquito/mosquito-vi-pilot-notes-op-data.jpg

Sea Mosquito (very similar to the FB VI ) RN performance data.

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/mosquito/sea-mosquito.pdf

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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2007, 04:52:04 AM »
Note that the graph at the end of Neil's first link only has a curve for the M.S. (low-level) max speeds with drop tanks on. As the remainder of the graph and the narrative demonstrate, dropping the tanks added speed.


Glad you posted Neil - am currently reading a book ("Night Fighter Over Germany") by a former member of 239 Squadron, 100 Group, who makes two references in the text to 150-octane fuel. Matches up with Lew Brandon's book ("Night Flyer") who also says 157 Sqn. stayed on 150-octane when it went back to ops over the continent after the V-1 scourge.

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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2007, 07:37:49 AM »
Hi Scherf

Glad you posted Neil - am currently reading a book ("Night Fighter Over Germany") by a former member of 239 Squadron, 100 Group, who makes two references in the text to 150-octane fuel. Matches up with Lew Brandon's book ("Night Flyer") who also says 157 Sqn. stayed on 150-octane when it went back to ops over the continent after the V-1 scourge

Thanks for the heads up!

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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2007, 03:19:57 PM »
Niel,

I have most of those charts, though not the reports, and the problem is that none of them, so far as I can see, cover a Mosquito FB.Mk VI with Merlian 25s, ejector stacks and at +18lbs boost other then the HS679 tests which they only coment on it being 10-15mph below average for it's type on those settings.
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2007, 06:24:23 PM »
ive landed 27 kills once when i decided to hit h2h and was in a considerably good room in terms of player skill its an amzing fighter only problem is with the tail stall/ falt spin
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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2007, 06:57:11 PM »
now that I have a dual throttle joystick, fix the mossie please :)

I can't wait to have a formation of bomber mossies :D
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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2007, 05:02:16 AM »
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Hi Scherf

Glad you posted Neil - am currently reading a book ("Night Fighter Over Germany") by a former member of 239 Squadron, 100 Group, who makes two references in the text to 150-octane fuel. Matches up with Lew Brandon's book ("Night Flyer") who also says 157 Sqn. stayed on 150-octane when it went back to ops over the continent after the V-1 scourge

Thanks for the heads up!

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No worries Neil - nothing you could base an academic paper on, just some anecdotes, but nonetheless.

Cheers,

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« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2007, 05:16:03 AM »
Hi Scherf.

Please check your pm.

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« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2007, 07:21:52 AM »
Heya:

Done, reply sent.

Cheers,

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« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2007, 02:33:23 AM »
Karnak

Check out the DH company test, carried out because of the poor results obtained by Boscombe Down:-

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance....to/hj679-dh.pdf

It shows the original April 1943 HJ 679 test result (in red) no tanks and ejector exhausts. Plus 18 lbs boost, 371mph at 5,000ft and 384mph at 12,400ft.

Neil.
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