Author Topic: Auto logoff? (Read 1308 times)

Kev367th · « **Reply #30 on:** April 30, 2007, 02:14:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Souless
If ENY bothers you that much, which equates to not being able to fly a spit16 or a P-51 then just switch sides.
Honestly guys thats whats its all about isnt it?
Wanting to fly your favorite late war ride without restriction?

In all honesty I have never been a fan of the ENY system.
The fix is to change your chess piece not police the afker's or try to propose some lame time limit because you cant fly what you want.

As I said this doesn't just affect the high numbered country, but the low one also.

If half your low numbered countries players are inactive, they are in a real sense penalising you.
The high numbered country isn't being hit by as high ENY restrictions as they should be.

So please don't try to change this into the famous switch sides, chess piece loyalty diatribe.

It affects ALL sides whether on the high or low side.

Ghastly · « **Reply #31 on:** April 30, 2007, 02:52:32 PM »

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If half your low numbered countries players are inactive

Yes, but Kev, better than 90% of the time the only reason for a significant portion of the playerbase is logged in and not actively playing is going to be the ENY limit.

For the few odd instances where you are talking about the effect in a low population arena, the better fix would be to have ENY not in effect until there are a certain minimum number of players in the arena (like 12-20).

However, a low pop exception might take more time to code than it's "worth" in terms of what it adds to the game play.

Souless · « **Reply #32 on:** April 30, 2007, 03:32:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
As I said this doesn't just affect the high numbered country, but the low one also.

If half your low numbered countries players are inactive, they are in a real sense penalising you.
The high numbered country isn't being hit by as high ENY restrictions as they should be.

So please don't try to change this into the famous switch sides, chess piece loyalty diatribe.

It affects ALL sides whether on the high or low side.

Kev the point your making is mute, the fact is and will remain YOU want to fly your late war ride and are looking for any way to make that possible.

At least be honest about your intentions with regards to this post

kamilyun · « **Reply #33 on:** April 30, 2007, 03:52:57 PM »

I like staying logged in so that when my country wins teh war I get my perk points.

Kev367th · « **Reply #34 on:** April 30, 2007, 04:29:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Souless
Kev the point your making is mute, the fact is and will remain YOU want to fly your late war ride and are looking for any way to make that possible.

At least be honest about your intentions with regards to this post

Not 'mute' at all, as you know I fly a Tiffie (1943), so a mid-war ride.

My 'intentions' are to see if HT will implement an auto-logoff remove inactive players who are affecting ENY for all sides, whilst contributing nothing.

BaldEagl · « **Reply #35 on:** April 30, 2007, 04:38:00 PM »

Hell, most of the time I'm active I'm contributing nothing.

Souless · « **Reply #36 on:** April 30, 2007, 04:38:45 PM »

My apologies kev, I thought you primarily flew the spit16.
Honestly though I dont see the big deal with changing countries.
Cause and effect I guess

Kev367th · « **Reply #37 on:** April 30, 2007, 05:31:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Souless
My apologies kev, I thought you primarily flew the spit16.
Honestly though I dont see the big deal with changing countries.
Cause and effect I guess

CC no prob.

Don't even see it as a changing countries issue.

I see it as ENY reflecting the true number of active players, and not people who have fallen asleep (done it myself while taking a "short break"), stayed logged on hoping for perks, passed out, etc.

Personally I think 1 hour of inactivity is more than enuf to 'disco' someone.

Citabria · « **Reply #38 on:** April 30, 2007, 05:35:48 PM »

change the ENY to be based off of numbers of players in flight..

duh

Vudak · « **Reply #39 on:** April 30, 2007, 05:42:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Citabria
change the ENY to be based off of numbers of players in flight..

duh

I always thought that's how it worked, anyway?

Eh, been wrong a few million times before.

Ghastly · « **Reply #40 on:** May 01, 2007, 10:39:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Citabria
change the ENY to be based off of numbers of players in flight..

duh

Yes, but... think it through. Imagine there are 90 players in an arena, exactly matched at 30 per side.

Then a 25 person squad signs in to the arena, and all go to one side. They are not flying (yet) so they aren't "counted" for calculating ENY limits, and they all select LA7's. They then simultaneously launch. Chances are they'd all manage to spawn in due to netlag - by the time the server has recieved and processed the information that even the first player to hit "fly" and is now "in flight", all the rest are all already spawned in on their own FE's. They'd be unaffected by the next update of the roster where ENY goes from 0 to probably 15 or so, since they are all already on the runway.

Is that how you think ENY should work? I don't.

Basing it on "players in flight" would only work properly if a pretty complex launch management process were added. Each launch request would need to be sent to the server, and the server would then need to process each one one at a time, with a roster recalc performed after each request and permission to launch either returned or denied to the front end. In short, it would mean adding a process that is a lot more complex and likely to introduce unexpected errors, all to fix a problem that's really not that much of a problem most of the time.

Or ENY could just be based on the number of players in the arena, irrespective of flight status, which is much simpler to determine, doesn't require much of a process, and is much harder to "game".

E25280 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 01, 2007, 05:27:00 PM »

Second time that's been explained in this thread . . . maybe they will see it this time.

sntslilhlpr6601 · « **Reply #42 on:** May 01, 2007, 05:51:28 PM »

kind of surprising how many people cannot read. everything in this thread has been said multiple times to no avail. the bottom line is afk players need to be kicked. they are taking up an arena slot and also screwing up eny. pretty simple if you ask me.

Ghastly · « **Reply #43 on:** May 01, 2007, 06:23:44 PM »

And it wouldn't make a particle of difference, because they'd just jump in and out of crappy planes parked at hangers at out of the way airfields while they waited for ENY to change in their favor, instead.

SuperDud · « **Reply #44 on:** May 01, 2007, 06:52:10 PM »

Who cares, it's a game. Have fun, don't worry about winning the war. Don't worry that your opponent is in a spit16 and your stuck with a D3A. Have fun with it, make the spitty auger or have your retarded squady try to kill him from the back seat(done this, fun as heck). The problem is not the arenas or ENY it's the people. Just play and have fun.