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Offline red26

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« on: May 03, 2007, 12:16:55 AM »
If I may ask Can we please get some good Artty,? A good 105mm Or 155mm? We have tanks,Planes and Boats Can we please get some Artty,?

A good pic

And a second

And a 155mm to model with

And a site to Fort Sill With some Good pics and Info.


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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2007, 01:07:55 AM »
Got a more versatile suggestion that would be available EW thru LW.

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=198029&highlight=German+88mm

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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2007, 10:41:18 AM »
Yeah, German 88 would be a good fit, as it was multi-mission capable.  I'd like to see some man-able 88-mm AT emplacements, with revetments, around towns bases, cities, factories, ports, etc.  The 37-mm multipurpose gun that we currently have is too easy to destroy (a 30-cal will easily take it out), and lacks any kind of protection like revetments or pill boxes; plus it's just too weak against tanks.

On older maps, vehicle bases usually had four outward facing revetments that you could park your tank hull-down in static defense.  I miss those, and thought there should have bee more of them.  I also wondered why the map builder hadn't thought to place these around the manned ack.
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2007, 11:21:50 AM »
For the MA a map maker can't alter field layouts. You'd have to request those changes from HTC.
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2007, 02:51:39 PM »
Haven't been online for 2 weeks since motherboard or chip packed it in (waiting for replacements and rebuild), but the vehicle bases near TT had revetments around them.  I thought it, and the sandbagged ack positions, were very well done.

Actually have seen some folks making use of them too.

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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2007, 09:29:25 PM »
I just want something that will reach out there unlike a tank. Tanks are great but it would be nice to have something with more range an 88,105 or a 155 would be nice to have as base defence and to tow behind ya and hit a base from a distance

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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2007, 12:51:39 PM »
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Originally posted by red26
I just want something that will reach out there unlike a tank. Tanks are great but it would be nice to have something with more range an 88,105 or a 155 would be nice to have as base defense and to tow behind ya and hit a base from a distance


It comes up somewhat frequently on the Wishlist.

In the case of the 88mm on a FlaK36, which was an EW design, and has many potential roles:

A towed 88mm FlaK36 in set up position should be somewhat more accurate that the Tiger's 88mm in direct fire mode.  Here's your longer reach.
A towed 88mm FlaK36 also allows you to engage bombers up to 35K altitude, which gives players a manned puffy ack ability against bombers attacking their bases.
In artillery mode, a FlaK36 had a range of some 16 miles, IIRC.
The FlaK36 could fire AP, HE, Smoke, and AA rounds.  Due to tractor or cassion, it's initial basic load might be larger and more versatile than those of the tanks in the game.

On the minus side though:

FlaK36 towed by a tractor would be slow and hard to maneuver in difficult terrain.  Betting it would encounter more hang ups on the map if you are not careful with it.  
FlaK36 is a soft target.  Exposed crew, no armor.  So, although it is versatile and has a long reach, it is very weak to any incoming fire.
FlaK36 does not have that fast a traverse speed.... you are not going to be able to swing it to engage low, close fighters or GV's very well.
There would probably be a delay between travel mode and a FlaK36 in a dug in, set up position.  Some "sandbags" and cammo cover has been selected --- the more effective the camo or dug in position is, the longer the set up and break down time should be.  Say, between 5 and 30 seconds.

So, it has some strengths and some weaknesses, and would bring a new variable to game play.   It can be used in an tank destroyer mode in ambush positions.  It can bring indirect fires against a town, base, or spawn point.  It can be used to snip at enemy tanks at long range.  It can allow base defenders an ability to engage high bombers on short notice (since we don't have much CAP in game).  But, once spotted, a FlaK36 is an easy target that can't run much at all.

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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2007, 02:39:23 PM »
I'll still take it       :aok :t
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