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Offline Saxman

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« on: May 12, 2007, 11:45:49 PM »
I know that the US Navy Mk8 sight was scaled so that an aircraft with a 30ft wingspan would be touching the edges of the inner ring (50mils) at 200yds.

Does anyone know how other reticles like the N9 (ring and bead) or K14 (I believe that's the one used by the P-51 and P-38) scaled (such-and-such wingspan at so-and-so range should fill so much of the sight)?

Scaling information for a number of sights including American, German, British and Japanese along with what aircraft we have available in the game they were historically used in would be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2007, 07:55:46 AM »
Sax,

Not sure what the default setting was, but I customized my N9 to match a pony's wingspan at 275 (where I have my convergence). I noticing that different aircraft had different sight sizing (extreme example -- La7), and since I wanted to be able to use the ring for range estimation I figured I might need custom ring sizes for each aircraft.

Doing it was easy, if not exactly simple:
  • Went off line with the plane I wanted to use (F4U) and cruised up to the pony, with film on.
  • Matched alt, and closed slowly with the pony centered.
  • After I was sure I had good footage, quit and opened the film.
  • Ran film till the ring was essentially centered and the range was 275. Took a screenshot then.
  • Left the fiilm viewer, and loaded the screenie into the GIMP. Used the program to measure the pixels for the wingspan and then the ring. (Most jpg viewers will do the same thing.)
  • used the numbers to make a ratio, and used the ratio to resize the ring in the gunsight bmp file itself.
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Offline Saxman

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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2007, 09:28:20 AM »
Problem is that only works to a point. In some aircraft (the Mk8 in the bubble-top Hogs, FM-2 and F6F is the only ones I've had the data to test so far, which is why I want to test other types as well) even the full-sized gunsight (256x256, IIRC) is smaller than it should be. You can't make the sight any larger than 256x256, so once you hit the max you can't correct any further.

The discrepancy is anywhere from being only slightly undersized (FM-2 and F6F) to as much as half the size it should be (bubble-top Hogs).
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