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Puck · « **on:** May 03, 2007, 04:12:12 PM »

Apparently the Net is no longer neutral, so major players (like AT&T) can now start forcing people on to copper rather than fiber. The net result of this is, for some people, a few hundred extra hops and a non self-healing network. We're already seeing the fallout where I work; one customer went from 8 to 368 hops and latency climbed faster than an Me-163 on crack.

There's no way to know how it will all shake out, but traffic shaping is now a reality. This is something we've been trying to avoid since AOL crashed our party.

It will certainly all be interesting in the next few months.

Denholm · « **Reply #1 on:** May 03, 2007, 05:08:34 PM »

Not sure about your region, yet over here Verizon offers up to 5 MBPS of Fiber Optics.

Puck · « **Reply #2 on:** May 03, 2007, 05:40:46 PM »

I'm talking about backbones. One of those things nobody had to worry about until AT&T bullied the congresscritters.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #3 on:** May 03, 2007, 06:00:22 PM »

There's one mindset in telco's anymore- how can we make even more money without adding anything, building any more infrastructure, or doing anything better or more efficiently.

Puck · « **Reply #4 on:** May 03, 2007, 09:03:56 PM »

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Originally posted by hubsonfire
There's one mindset in telco's anymore- how can we make even more money without adding anything, building any more infrastructure, or doing anything better or more efficiently.

The flip side to that is "How can we get some return on the billions of dollars we've spent to plant backbone over the last 25 years".

Unfortunately the debate is FAR from simple. On the other hand telcos are EASILY the worst companies on the planet to work with, and they're ALL the same. They routinely over-charge on your bill, and in the case of AT&T they have the bill so obfuscated it's nearly a full time job to manage it.

Roscoroo · « **Reply #5 on:** May 03, 2007, 09:16:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Denholm
Not sure about your region, yet over here Verizon offers up to 5 MBPS of Fiber Optics.

Verizon is attempting to catch up with cable .. in alot of area's they still have terriable phone lines trying to act as a decient connect ... Do the research and ask questions ...

my verizon suked and after them triple billing me for service that didnt work I wont go back ...

a year later they finally replaced my lines , now there begging me to switch back and they cant /wont beat my current price for 5mb cable . HA HA User beware with verizon IMO .

Denholm · « **Reply #6 on:** May 04, 2007, 09:10:53 AM »

I was just mentioning it since he referred to Fiber Optics. I personally don't use it since I have a 80 KBPS lag free connection for $50 a month. (That's AT&T for ya.)

doc1kelley · « **Reply #7 on:** May 05, 2007, 10:25:57 AM »

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Originally posted by Denholm
I was just mentioning it since he referred to Fiber Optics. I personally don't use it since I have a 80 KBPS lag free connection for $50 a month. (That's AT&T for ya.)

But you don't say what area you are in. Your avatar info doesn't display it either.

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Denholm · « **Reply #8 on:** May 07, 2007, 11:28:38 AM »

Dallas region, where Internet sells like Potatoes in Idaho.