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« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2007, 08:14:49 AM »
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Reason ENY starts at 5 -

Because of the way it is calculated there is always an ENY value, even if the country numbers difference is only 1
 


This is not true.




Only when one side starts to get a more considerable bigger number of players, ENY starts to move. When difference is only 1, ENY is still 0.
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« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2007, 08:22:41 AM »
My squad doesn't force us to stay loyal to a country but we are loyal to each other so we stay knight, just as we were always Cz in AW. Sometimes we're outnumbered, sometimes we're not, but we're always ganged by the bish/rooks. It all evens itself out.

What's broke: ENY doesn't take into consideration 2 countries piling on to the 3rd country who by the numbers has, for example, 110 players, while the other 2 have 80 each. That makes it roughly 110 to 160 admitting there may be some skirmishes between the other 2 countries. So now the country getting ganged has a very limited planeset to combat a horde on both fronts....really the only time I hear much griping about ENY anymore.

Now what really is frustrating many is that they can't log in at prime time and get into the arena that their squadmates are flying in.

I personally have a plane or 2 at every ENY level that I am perfectly happy flying no matter how many LA, P51, Spixteen dweebs are around. But I know it forces more people to quit flying for the night then it does to change sides.

So with all the great intentions, I don't think it's working as intended.

Criticize me, my squad or others who have a similar opinion all you want. Your opinion matters to me as much as mine does to you. But we are all paying customers.

I don't know the answer so I will leave it up to HTC as they continue to do well by us all and never seem to stop trying to improve gameplay for us all.

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« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2007, 08:43:05 AM »
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This is not true.




Only when one side starts to get a more considerable bigger number of players, ENY starts to move. When difference is only 1, ENY is still 0.


As said - the reason they start at 5 is to provide a buffer.

There's a thread from way back where HT explains it.

If you also check way back the formula for how ENY is calculated is posted, then you realise there is always a number, even if it is 0.000000001, or 0.0 on the clipboard.
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« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2007, 08:54:05 AM »
I can accept that there's always a value, but I know .0000001 isn't 1, and I really don't think HT is incapable of writing software that rounds down.

Anyway, I described what I would consider optimal. While the values I listed may not work in the current setup, they could be made to work. I don't think that's BS.
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« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2007, 10:17:09 AM »
no excuse.  stop being a child, if you dont like geing constrained by ENY go to the least numbered side and meet some new people.  stop being a tard.
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« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2007, 11:08:50 AM »
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no excuse.  stop being a child, if you dont like geing constrained by ENY go to the least numbered side and meet some new people.  stop being a tard.


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« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2007, 11:23:39 AM »
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Sometimes we're outnumbered, sometimes we're not, but we're always ganged by the bish/rooks. It all evens itself out.


Gimme a break.  Nits aren't ganged any more, or less, than any other chess piece.  I can't believe you would seriously consider this Goose. All sides get ganged now and then, nits aren't special.

Numbers wise, it's the bish in the bucket lately. Before that it was nits.  I remember a couple of years back it was the rooks who were always outnumbered, now they regularly have a significant numbers advantage.
  Sunday afternoon  the rooks had 164 logged in and the bish had 92.  The rooks were hording big time over A30. Yup, the rook horldings were well represented.

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« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2007, 11:50:07 AM »
The whiners complaining about the Horde got the ENY instated.  They are now happy because they don't get gang banged.  They cannot give up the precious ENY for fear of the horde returning.  Funny how they are quick to call whiner when somebody questions ENY.

So instead of going somewhere else on the map and fly where the horde wasn't we have ENY.  

So i'm confused... it's okay to switch countries, but it wasn't okay to move to another area of the map?

I still pay for AH (why I don't know) I haven't logged in since the last time ENY pissed me off.  This is a 'chicken before the egg argument' aint a single person has the answer to the riddle.  I just felt the need to put in my two cents.  

JB, I must commend you on maintaining composure throughout the thread.... rare in this community.  I would have snapped by now

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« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2007, 11:52:31 AM »
One could perhaps split the plane set into 3rds, equally distributing the uber factor. Place the sets on 4 hour rotations and let the chips fall where they may at ones playing time slot.  At least as much as I play, I would hit my "favorite" bird for a period of time and perhaps learn to love some of the other less "desirable" planes.  Just a thought.


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« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2007, 12:15:56 PM »
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The whiners complaining about the Horde got the ENY instated.  They are now happy because they don't get gang banged.  They cannot give up the precious ENY for fear of the horde returning.  


You say you haven't logged in for a while.  No offense but it shows.  The hordes are as prevelant as ever,

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« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2007, 12:17:25 PM »
Hordes are just swarms of squeaking targets.

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« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2007, 02:02:59 PM »
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You say you haven't logged in for a while.  No offense but it shows.  The hordes are as prevelant as ever,


No I have not flown in well over a month.  But if the hordes are as prevelant as ever.... what exactly is the purpose of ENY?  I thought it was to make the sides even so that no bases could be taken or so that the fighting was even accross the map.... just like in real war.
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« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2007, 02:37:49 PM »
Why do people keep comparing this to "the war"??? Its a game !!

 The idea behind ENY isn't so much to make people switch sides, tho it is a by-product. The idea behind ENY is that if you want to fight on the team with superior numbers, then you would get less superior equipment, just to even up the ODDS, not the numbers.

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« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2007, 02:58:33 PM »
I think it might be more accurate to say that now there's an incentive to improve the numerical situation, and a penalty for refusing to do so.
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« Reply #59 on: May 15, 2007, 08:12:07 PM »
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I think it might be more accurate to say that now there's an incentive to improve the numerical situation, and a penalty for refusing to do so.


well at least that opinion is civil.

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