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Offline Mr No Name

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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2007, 01:55:55 AM »
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That was Churchill. He passed a note to Roosevelt at Potsdam with his plan to parcel out Europe with Stalin. Roosevelt glanced at it and said it was fine by him, but he should get rid of the piece of paper. Roosevelt didn't want to get involved in post-war Europe. He thought Europeans should do it.


Churchill wanted to rearm the Germans and march east!  Churchill was slapped in the face by FDR and Uncle Joe's deals.
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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2007, 02:01:24 AM »
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Churchill wanted to rearm the Germans and march east!  


I could swear that was Patton.  But then again I watch too many movies.
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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2007, 02:08:02 AM »
i thought it was Mickey Mouse??

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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2007, 02:23:08 AM »
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Originally posted by Shuckins Perhaps we need another one, if for no other reason than to cure us of our arrogance.

Regards, Shuckins [/B]


Wow.  Every now and then a JEWELL!

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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2007, 02:58:02 AM »
You know, Shuckins...With all the outsourcing of tech jobs, the rising inflation, the dramatic change of our economy from a primarily manufacturing (80% manufacturing-based jobs in 1950) to a 60% and growing service base today...We may very well have one. Hell, maybe if we go poor up here, the mexicans' will decide it's better to stay home, rather than swim the Rio Grande:lol

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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2007, 06:18:48 AM »
To be perfectly frank, what could Roosevelt and Churchill be expected to do about the Russians occupying Eastern Europe?  They would have had to have launched their military forces against the Red Army, the world's largest, in order to get them out.

After five years of war that is something they were not willing to do.  They simply accepted the Soviet occupation as a fait accompli.




Hap, thanks.  One of the best history lessons I ever taught in the public schools was one in which I sent my students out into the community to talk to friends and family who had lived through the Depression.  Then each student had to stand at the front of the class and relate what they had been told.  

There were a lot of touching stories related by some wide-eyed young people.  One girl stated that when she asked her grandmother about her life during that period, she could not speak....and only wept.

We have no right to question the motives of that generation.  Knowing that there was 50% unemployment in some cities is all the explanation we need.

Regards, Shuckins
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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2007, 06:34:02 AM »
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haha, thanks all, i just plagiarized all your stuff for my high school essay.
that's pretty good.  you are far too lazy to do your own work and will be a pimple on humanity's bellybutton any way.  glad to be of help.

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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2007, 06:59:22 AM »
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Churchill wanted to rearm the Germans and march east!  Churchill was slapped in the face by FDR and Uncle Joe's deals.
that is exactly right.  at the start of the second world war one of the many errors britain commited was one on behalf of imperial self interest.  had they allowed germany to pound the russians to dust by simply signing an armistice and allowing germany to proceed eastward most of us would have been far better off.  the fact is that england, always jealously protective of her imperial holdings would not allow a strong power in europe to stand.  

in the U.S. the communist administration was patiently looking for a good opportunity to allow the axis to draw us into war with huge popular support.  the japanese gave the communists that with pearl harbor.  

it's not clearly evident that the communist administration conspired for this event to occur but there is certainly plenty of circumstantial evidence suggesting that they did nothing to prevent it or even mitigate the damage.

the most damning evidence against the administration to this fact is that the war department did not forward deciphered japanese communiques to admiral husband e kimmel and lt. general walter short that would have allowed them the opportunity to better defend pearl harbor.  it has not been proven that anyone in the communist administration prevented those comminques and other intelligence to be passed along but it has been suggested that this was the case from the very moment after the attack.

after the war in europe and the far east the communist administration with the new puppet in place did all that it could to pave the way and pay the tolls for the communism to spread globally.  

the only reason why we aren't communists now is because the communists are so stupid they couldn't get out of their own way.  every democratic administration has done all that it could to advance the cause of communism at home and abroad.
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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2007, 08:07:01 AM »
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fdr was one of the all time worst presidents...  He was a liberal socialist in the extreme..  calling him a commie was not that far off.

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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2007, 08:20:19 AM »
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We have no right to question the motives of that generation.  Knowing that there was 50% unemployment in some cities is all the explanation we need.

Regards, Shuckins


Are you serious?  When that *******'s problems are still here more then 60 years later, WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO QUESTION IT.
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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2007, 08:41:56 AM »
Laser, it appears that you were right.  We are operating on different intellectual plains.

Would anybody else care to step up to the plate?  Laser's fast-balls are too much for me.

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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2007, 10:18:00 AM »
this is good...  lazer is actually corect... lincoln started it...  fdr helped it along and lbj finished off a great country.   We are just waiting for the things these men have done to finish us off...

So many people talking about the great programs that were "needed" during the depression.. can you socialists tell me exactly how many Americans starved during the depression?   can you name one person who was saved from starvation by a government program during the depression?

rolex is right on cue with his "fdr communism works.. we just haven't done it right."   I think that is what they say about all communist efforts isn't it?

FDR believed... like all democrats.. that we could tax ourselves into prosperity..

rpm believes that without fdr... we could not have won WWII...  the japs would have made beach landings and done to us what they did to the chinaman...  Anyone in power could have and would have done the same... maybe better and faster..  Unless of course.. you think fdr faked the whole pearl harbor thing?

"Progressive"?   If that is a liberal city dweller way of saying "commie" then yeah... he was a "progressive"...  commie is just a lot easier to write and maybe a little more descriptive.

No one liked the word commie.. then... no one liked the word socialist... so now we have... "progressive".   all the same thing really.

lazs