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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2007, 12:31:51 AM »
Fortunately, we still have some trees left over from the great age of sail.

She will be rebuilt.
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2007, 01:54:25 AM »
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It was in the news on all Russian national TV channels.

Restored clipper will be better then new, but it will be new-made :( Fake :( I mean - touching the mast that you know was bended by the wind at the Good Hope feels different... :(

Like touching a machine at Aurora cruiser, understanding that this mechanism was moving the vessel at Tsushima battle back in 1905, and it still can be operated and produce 3500 h/p for 6000 tons of displacement...


Although the fire is devastating... all of the masts, rigging and decoration (all the original) were off the ship at the time of the fire.  It is currently undergoing a restoration so the only things actually lost were the decks.

Although it is a disaster, it could have been a hell of a lot worse.
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2007, 02:55:47 AM »
the woods not the important bit of the ship, as that gets replaced alot over time as it rots etc,

the most important part they said they were worried about is its metal frame, if thats warped then thats a much bigger deal

sad :-(

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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2007, 10:18:55 AM »
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With that amout of wind, as evidenced by the significant chop on the water, no captain in his right mind would order a full-sail-set as depicted here. The ship would capsize in a heartbeat.

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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2007, 10:57:30 AM »
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With that amout of wind, as evidenced by the significant chop on the water, no captain in his right mind would order a full-sail-set as depicted here. The ship would capsize in a heartbeat.
sorry gainsie but you couldn't be more incorrect.  the idea was to get to the other side of the world and back as quickly as possible.  the successful masters piled on heavy canvas in gale force winds to drive their ships at speeds often in excess of sixteen knots and more.  they seldomly hove to even for important repairs.  speed was the name of the game and there were significant amounts of cash for the masters who were quick to deliver their cargos, pick up new ones and return to europe making clipper and windjammer captains some of the wealthiest members of the working classes in both europe and north america.

as an example the bark herzogin cecilie made on dash of twenty knots during a gale and with favorable currents.

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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2007, 01:16:22 PM »
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With that amout of wind, as evidenced by the significant chop on the water, no captain in his right mind would order a full-sail-set as depicted here. The ship would capsize in a heartbeat.


Sorry, it's just an illustration from a Soviet book that had a chapter about Cutty Sark. Chukovsky's "Frigate captains" was a must-read for all Soviet kids interested in history.

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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2007, 01:45:00 PM »
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With that amout of wind, as evidenced by the significant chop on the water, no captain in his right mind would order a full-sail-set as depicted here. The ship would capsize in a heartbeat.


Wrong.   They did "order full-sail".   The ships did not capsize either.
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