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Offline killnu

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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2007, 10:06:47 PM »
if nobody cares about rank...why so many posting about it?
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2007, 10:09:17 PM »
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if nobody cares about rank...why so many posting about it?


Because, for most, it is all they have.  :aok
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2007, 10:11:05 PM »
Then let them have it...it doesnt affect you...if you really dont care about it.:aok

my point is...if you dont care about...so what if they fly to improve it?  I only run across a few of them a day that run for rank sake...most run because they just dont know any better.  If you chase them down...or get them to turn and engage...find out who they are...most of them have pitiful ranks...they fly timid because that is the way they are.   Only a handful of the 4000+ that play are timid because of rank.

so in the end...big deal and move on to another con.  Granted I will still try to bait the runner into turning around...that is just fun to do.:)
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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2007, 10:15:36 PM »
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Who cares how many kills you have?  I wouldn't mind if you didn't get any recognition of kills at the end of a run.
Truth. I just enjoy embarrassing the rank-tards and timid flyers.. no need to get your name in lights.
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« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2007, 10:17:53 PM »
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if nobody cares about rank...why so many posting about it?


It would appear only one person started this thread and the others are only stating what a waste of time rank is (and i agree 100%).

Just because you don't care about rank doesn't mean you shouldn't post anything about it. If it weren't for rank we wouldn't have as many runners and campers as we do now. It really takes the fun out of the game if you ask me and THAT is why I'm posting here. How about you?:huh

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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2007, 10:27:54 PM »
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It really takes the fun out of the game if you ask me


so you do care about it.  maybe not what yours is...but you care about it...and how it affects gameplay in your eyes.

I dont think it affects gameplay as much as most think...as pointed out in my earlier post in this thread.
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2007, 11:17:14 PM »
I will say I did like it back in AW where it showed on your score sheet the last 8 or 10 people you killed and who killed you last...

Also in AW, the longer you went without dieing there would be a gradual increase in the worth of your kills. When you died it reset to the base amount again...

There's not that many survivalists in AH though what with rams, HO's and 262s etc...I doubt any kill streak UI additions would transform many into  survivalists...Maybe just make being one even more fun ... ;)

Take a look at the component K/D stat that comprises the aggregate  fighter rank at tour's end. There you will find the proof that while there may be a perception of rampant timidity it's really just an illusion. People tend to fly timid only situationally for the most part. For example, right now out of 4,000+ players this tour a 10 to 1 k/d in fighter gets you ranked 25th in that sub-stat, just a paultry 5 to 1 k/d ranks you in the top 100 of all fighter pilots in the game. K/d is the least competitive of the Fighter rank sub-stats which indicates very few are trying for it per se, thus are probably not flying particularly timidly. If people are playing timid, they sure as hell suck at it, generally speaking...Because they're getting killed anyways... ;)









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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2007, 12:25:25 AM »
all I have to do to get into 2-300s is run 4-6 succesful specific missions-  very easy.

A good rank means you understand the games scoring system and have the time & interest to utilize your knowledge. Of course its a bit easier if your a halfway decent stick, but it isnt really necessary.....:)
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2007, 12:55:40 AM »
The only problem with rank is that people try to equate "skills" with rank. It is just a scavenger hunt, and changing the items on the list won't change the way people perceive it.
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2007, 01:18:26 AM »
People run for many valid reasons.  Among them:

Low on fuel
Out of ammo
Pilot wound
Leaking oil
Damaged radiator
B'n'Zer being chased by a T'n'Ber (maybe even with dive speed)
Exiting a heavily outnumbered situation
Trying to gain seperation for a reversal

And some reasons maybe less valid but at least understandable:

Noobie
Inexperience in the plane they are flying

Except those last two the reasons are far from timidity.  

I'd like to see every one of the "run whiners" stay in it from now on any time one of these happens to you.        (yeah, sure)
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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2007, 01:26:23 AM »
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I dont think it affects gameplay as much as most think...as pointed out in my earlier post in this thread.
It does affect the gameplay very much.

I remember when AH2 was released. 2 weeks or so no scores were recorded, no stats, no ranking.
Everybody fought, even the timid guys and we all had fun, something like that will probably never be seen again.

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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2007, 01:47:09 AM »
Once every month, everybody has a rank of 0.
What you do from there is all you.
Improving your next month's score is the challenge,
Besting yourself.
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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2007, 02:41:01 AM »
I kinda thought about this for a while and I think I  finally have an answer.

The guys who spend 6+ hours in the cockpit a day get pretty rank.

Those who spend 3+ hours in the cockpit daily aint quite so rank.

Those who spend an hour or so are usually not rank at all.

Ergo, anyone who is rank should probably think about taking a shower every once in a while.

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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2007, 02:46:07 AM »
MA doesn't have obligations, duties, nor commitment to your team mates.
 Rank is a mere reflection of how opportunistic one is.



 I've seen plenty of guys with good heart and good skills, who will stay with their friends in times of trouble, fighting in the worst of conditions and getting shot down pretty often. Their rank never exceeds 200, but they are whom I respect.

 On the other hand I've also seen plenty of tards who fly under their "squad"(...rather, "thug mob") protection, first to arrive in vulch, first to run away when things go bad, abandon friends, use them as bait, lazy BnZing while others are getting shot down, never leave the horde, never fight against a horde, and etc etc..

 These are the tards in the tardy mob squads who are in the center of the MA milkruns, leading those 'mishuns' which is just a big set-up to lure clueless n00bs with big words like "teamwork" and "cooperation", where in reality, the so called "leaders" of them tardy mob merely uses their mission participants as unwitting pawns, to lure enemy defenses out into the open. 99% of these 'mishuns' are destined for failure. The only purpose of these 'mishuns' is to use everyone as bait so the mishun leaders can rack up huge numbers of kills and return home with big scores - all the while their own guys are being slaughtered by the defenses.


 If Combat Tour is launched, and people are to prove themselves as leaders and a part of the team, bound to duties to protect their wingmen, getting the mission done, and still survivng all that to top out with a good score - only then I will admit their rank as a reminder of skill.

 In any other case, MA rank only means you're that much of a weasel.

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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2007, 03:44:30 AM »
I say we take rank and score out of the game. Maybe keep stats. It would kill EW/MW arenas tho, but it doesnt look like those arenas are used for _much_ more than milkrunning anyway.