What WW2 ace do you look up to?

[MotorOil1]

Originally posted by Oldman731
Johnnie Johnson, RAF, far ahead of any other.

Heh.  His choice of aircraft in real life is markedly different from my choice in pretend life, however.

- oldman

I like Johnnie as well.  He didn't have the ego of Bader.   An honourable mention should go out to George Beurling.  I would never have wanted to fly with him due the high loss rates of his wingmen.  He once shot down a 190 and got back into formation with his squadies without them ever realising he was missing.  They had to look at the gun cam footage to verify his kill claim.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by VVV
I really look up to David McCampbell who had 34 Aerial victories and he also shot down 7 aircraft in one day in the "Marianas Turkey Shoot".

Erich Hartmann would have to be my second.

McCampbell shot down 9 that sortie, with his wingman getting 6 more.

My regards,

Widewing

[-pjk--]

Ilmari Juutilainen would be mine , if i have to pick one.

98 kills never damage from enemy fiter.

Flyed timid too...

ps, read his book

[killnu]

Hartmann.  Galland is close 2nd.

[balance1]

1st ones arent in dividual aces but combined they are an ace crew Jay Zeamer's B-17 crew (1 B-17E Vs. 17 A6m3 Zeros: B-17 won)

and

Capt. Stanley "Swede" Vejtasa 11 kills 4 in SBD (3 zeros vs himself he out dogfaught [<- is that a word]  them and shot em all down) and 7 kills in the F4F and FM2 Wildcat  fighters

Finally the unsung and unknown hero

The P-38 pilot who was escorting B-17's on their may 12th 1944 mission to Zwickau, Germany whose callsign was "Balance1".  He single-handedly broke up an enemy attack of 50+ planes by split S-ing down into their formation and blowing up 2 of them on his before leaving one smoking and the rest dissappearing into the cloud deck with him still giving chase!
~for full story of that incident read pages 111-113 of Truman Smith's The Wrong Stuff the adventures and misadventures of an 8th air force aviator
buy that book ^ its the best d*mn book about a B-17 pilots memories of WWII ive ever read, ive read the little SOB about 10 times allready!

[Hornet33]

I don't think I could pick out a single pilot. They are ALL my hero's.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Squire
I suppose because I read "Fly For Your Life" when I was young, Wing Cdr Robert S. Tuck, RAF.

That was a good book and Tuck was one of the good ones.  It saddened me when I heard he'd died in '87.

After I read it, my mom read it and she normally doesn't read those kinds of books.  She said the thought it would be trite and one sided, but after reading it she thought is was a good book that portrayed him as human with good and bad points.  She said I should keep the book, but I misplaced it somewhere.

I think that book played a large part in creating my interest in the RAF and Spitfires.

[Gianlupo]

Originally posted by killnu
Hartmann.  Galland is close 2nd.

So, why didn't you choose "Bubi" as your new handle, KillnU?

[Squire]

Ya, I wanted to meet him one day. He didnt give many interviews, I did see him featured on "The World At War" which was a BBC doc from the 1970s.

So much history and they are almost all gone now.

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

Tell you what, if i was put into the position to kill people, and 80 years later some dip **** looks upto me for my deed,ill call him a retard.

And like i said before,you can justify it anyway you want,the rule is the rule.
you TAKE life,you are murder.
does not matter if the life you took WAS a murderer.

Just because you can justify something will never make it right.

"you killed my brother there for that grants me right to slaughter every member of your family."
understand?


and looking upto someone because they killed more people!?
you are nuts, did you ever think most pilots hoped to holy hell the people they shot down made it out alive?
any soldier or pilot preys for peace, because it is them who suffers most.
for the taking of life.
Period.

Now i do not begrudge these people, im just trying to hit two sides of the coin here.



What is amazing is how these people found a way to live past the war with taking life without enough guilt to blow themselfs away.
"and many did,however unknown to there friends/family/community/country"



Life IS such.
Bu|| $|-|17 your selfs otherwise all you want.

[Hornet]

Col. Donald Blakeslee

[Shifty]

Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
Tell you what, if i was put into the position to kill people, and 80 years later some dip **** looks upto me for my deed,ill call him a retard.

And like i said before,you can justify it anyway you want,the rule is the rule.
you TAKE life,you are murder.
does not matter if the life you took WAS a murderer.

Just because you can justify something will never make it right.

"you killed my brother there for that grants me right to slaughter every member of your family."
understand?


and looking upto someone because they killed more people!?
you are nuts, did you ever think most pilots hoped to holy hell the people they shot down made it out alive?
any soldier or pilot preys for peace, because it is them who suffers most.
for the taking of life.
Period.

Now i do not begrudge these people, im just trying to hit two sides of the coin here.



What is amazing is how these people found a way to live past the war with taking life without enough guilt to blow themselfs away.
"and many did,however unknown to there friends/family/community/country"



Life IS such.
Bu|| $|-|17 your selfs otherwise all you want.

Vast difference between a Soldier, and a Murderer. Not only vast, but obvious. Using your logic, should we get rid of Police Officers as well? If they take a life to save innocent life, are they murders too? If your attempting to come across as some noble soul that's above it all, it's not working. Your the one B.S.ing himself. Why not leave this thread so it can continue for it's intended purpose?

[Panzzer]

Too many to list.

Peter Spoden, he had some funny stories to tell, the most pleasant gentleman of the aces I've ever met, flew night fighters for Germany during the war.

All of the Finnish ones, and all of whom I've met (the Finnish ones, the German ones, the British gentleman and the Russian/Soviet gentleman).

[Bosco123]

My man would be Hamilton Mcwerder became an ace in one day of the carrier USS Randolf He flew an F6F-5 "Hellcat" one of the peticular paint schemes on the hellcat in AH with the stripes on the tail and the white ailerons is one of his buddys "11" it says, hes nuber "5"

[airspro]

Hartmann