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Offline Bosco123

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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2007, 10:28:22 PM »
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But this thread, is about REAL MEN, and REAL "AERO"PLANES.....
No cannons, no radar, no armor plate.... LOL, no throttle either....
Just a Mag switch....

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and also the F6F-5 had an armour plate for the protection of the piolt and they went man enough :huh  :huh :confused:
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2007, 10:53:28 PM »
Camel.

Nieuport.

SPAD.

Se5a.

Bristol Fighter.

DH2.



Yes, yes. I would fly them, pay another $15/month to do it, too.
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2007, 04:49:44 AM »
And Parachute's were considered a sign of cowardice!!!

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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2007, 05:04:49 AM »
Wow those guys had Major gonads... An unreliable engine, a flimsy thin gastank behind the instrument panel, (right over their feet)... Flammable dope soaked linen skin.... Those crate's were a fire hazard, just sitting on the ground....
Single hunters on dawn patrol...
Chivalry in the air.... A pilot could hold his hands up, and his enemy would give him a pass...Sometimes???

Knights of the air!!!

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2007, 07:46:49 AM »
Currently reading Canvas Falcons by Stephen Longstreet.

At one point he points out that planes of the era had>>>>


Unreliable motors which spat out large  quantity's of Caster oil.
The most flammable liquid imaginable in a large tank right in front of you.
Cloth skin over wing spars coated with liquid explosive.


Now I'm not sure exactly what went into "dope" back then, but if it had any nitrocellulose in it as "gap filler" it would indeed burn with an unholy glee.

If you don't believe me take apart a shotgun shell, take the nitrocellulose powder out of the base, dissolve it in laqueor, paint it on silk, let it dry, then try igniting the stuff. Back in that era they used long strips of it as film media for the movie picture industry. Those reels would not quite explode if ignited.

but the speed at which it burns is a sight to behold.

Its not that it can't be done, because it has.
Its that there just doesn't seem to be enough demand by enough people to make it a paying proposition.

I used to split my time between warbirds and WWI flying sims.
Flew most of them at one time or another. Flying Circus had huge potential, but couldn't make it pay the bills. Red Baron, DOA, the list goes on & on.

But I just don't see the demand. We have kids coming up who want to fly jets, what do they care about wooden wings and wire?

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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2007, 08:09:58 AM »
I think its obvious, there are some of us who would gladly subscribe...
Myself included...

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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2007, 08:35:42 AM »
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now here is an airplane that everyone could consider. A Dorier Do-335 A late war airpane the plane had an engine in the back and in the front if the germans built it, it would have been the fastes prop-driven aircarft. the only reson they did not persue this project was because they had the jet- powerd airplane and it would be obsolete here are some pictures for you guys to feast your eyes on













the nickname of this airplane was called the "Pheil" or "Arrow" in America
hows that for a plane :aok

There is one of these on display at the Udvar-Hazy Air and Space Museum at Dulles airport near D.C.

It's a pretty big plane....
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2007, 10:32:10 AM »
that one was a remake of it, it was made in the 80's. the rreal one is in gremany
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2007, 10:42:42 AM »
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that one was a remake of it, it was made in the 80's. the rreal one is in gremany


nonsense.

It's the original one.
It was restored by Dornier in 1975, then on display in the Deutsches Museum in Munich for 10 years. It's now back in the United States.
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2007, 11:15:56 AM »
okay im wrong even though I did not see it last year at the smithsoinian museum in D.C its probly hidden
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2007, 04:41:48 PM »
Hey, take your non WWI era hijack to your own thread.
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2007, 04:42:36 PM »
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Camel.

Nieuport.

SPAD.

Se5a.

Bristol Fighter.

DH2.



Yes, yes. I would fly them, pay another $15/month to do it, too.


Same here, forgot about the bristol fighter.
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2007, 07:30:16 AM »
Well, a WW1 style arena would be a haven for all the furballers. I am not sure what it would do for the buff pilots as the would be extremely limited.

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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2007, 09:59:02 AM »
Well if you guys want to stay in would how about the P6-E "Hawk"??
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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2007, 10:30:10 AM »
The P6 didn't appear untill after the war..... Kinda like the P80 for WW2...
Lets not get into that again!!!

Bomber Guys;
Early war; they could throw hand grenades over the side....LOL!!!
Late war; Handley Page 0400's, Gotha's, and lets not forget the ZEPP's bombing london... Talk about a target a blind man couldn't miss...LOL!!!

Man a WW1 game would be sooo cool.... You could design and paint your own airplane skins... Wild ones too...

But I'm not going to hold my breath.... No oxygen either, Hmmmm...

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