Originally posted by VWE Do you 2 need a time out?
Originally posted by Chairboy For the record, Golfer's commentary had nothing to do with my decision. In fact, it was terribly unhelpful. I felt he took credit for a decision I made quite separately from his "advice", and his condescension did favors to nobody. Golfer's advice on some subjects and reality do not share the same vectors.I decided against ultralights in general because I didn't like the way the one I flew felt (light weight = tossed around at the whim of the wind), nor the typical high revs of the engines most of them have. Also, it's a bit misleading to suggest that I went for a certified aircraft because of the experience, I was mid-purchase of a Long-EZ before finding out that the stock design didn't allow for my long legs, and that was well after my flight of infamy. For the original poster, go up in a 2-seater ultralight with a trainer first to see if it's what you want. The noise and bumpiness doesn't translate well to the videos you see online, but if it turns out to be what you want, there are some nice looking light sport planes (previously 'fat ultralights') like the Rans Coyote II and the S-12XL (the second which is similar to the Challenger).C'mon, guys, get it right.
Originally posted by Golfer I'm going to chime in on that as well. My points wern't meant to be ultralights = bad. They're not. I've flown a couple (the Challenger II and II short wing variants included) and they can be a lot of fun.My points mostly had to do with using auto engines in airplanes and relative safety of experimental airplanes compared to certified airplanes.I'm absolutely sure that Chairboy didn't make any decisions based on my commentary but my concerns were at some of the reasoning and decisions made in the process. Not a personal vendetta against Chairboy but addressing numerous red flags that went flying in interest of smoking hole prevention. Mostly involved in getting in too deep too quickly. Chairboy learned about this the day he flew a tailwheel airplane the first time...solo. He learned a lot from that and along the road he picked up enough information to stay that much safer as he gains that much more experience. I don't recall ever "taking credit" for Chairboy doing anything but I did throw in a few juvenile "I told you so" jabs. I would have sang a different tune had his tailwheel flight gone the other way...which it very easily could have. I disagree with a few things with experimental engines/certain airplanes but thats my personal choice to not fly them. Rotary engines, auto engine conversions and airplanes are glorified kites fall into those categories. Again...my decisions but its the experiemental builders and tinkerers that figure out how to make them work safely over time so good on them for being the test pilots.My only other tip would be is not use 1 as "one" and 2 as "to/too" when typing. Just some good advice 4U...Yep it's as gay as I thought it would be Did you decide on an EGT and the rest of your panel Chairboy?