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Offline Ghosth

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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2007, 08:31:52 AM »
Good List Evenhaim!


IMXLR8N, Bearcat never saw combat in WWII, that puts it outside the realm of potential planes right there. Plus if you did add it, it would have to be highly perked or it would unbalance things. So why bother?

Night fighters were a very minor minority compared to the vast number of planes that actually flew and saw combat. Plus you can't have a night fighter without having at least 8 hours of darkness in which to go hunt. Currently people get hugely upset about 20 minutes of dusk. Who's going to pay to play in 8 hours of darkness? See what that does to your nightfighters? Again, shoulder shrug, why bother?  

DO335 Arrow, hmmm ok, late war plane, very few in production.
I guess after ever other plane that has been asked for BEFORE the arrow is in the game I'd be ok with adding it.

But I wouldn't hold your breath waiting.

There is a very big list of badly needed planes. You didn't include any of them at all, just late war monsters. Sorry but AH has enough of those at the moment.

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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2007, 09:09:02 AM »
I would LOVE to see the- HE219 A7-  bomber killer.

an absolutely devastating plane.!!!

408 mph

armament from hell!!!

i know this one wasn,t on your list.

but it should have been!!--lol




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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2007, 09:31:59 AM »
He-219... Gotta love the armament, but... 400mph? Pathetic compard to 109K4, P51D, even the the 190D, all of which break 400MPH on WEP before even reaching 10K alt. Hell even the P47D40 breaks 400mph by 15k.


400mph top speed isn't very fast, especially considering the speeds bombers fly at in this game. Consider the Hellcat and the D-hog are 400mph planes. They're not considered speed demons in this game, at all.


EDIT: P.S. for anybody that's making requests:

HTC has 3 criteria:
- production planes (no prototypes)
- saw combat (self explanatory)
- at least in unit strength

The F8F and F7F did not see combat before war's end. The Do335 was still in development and none had been sent to any units (although a prototype or two may have "seen combat" in that they were attacked during testing). None of those aircraft meet the criteria.
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2007, 09:44:28 AM »
400mph is slow compared to most fighters but with a bomber you have to consider how hard it would be to attack them.  Most of our buffs are traveling around the 200mph mark and you can dance around them with no problem.  Try that at 400 mph.  You may get one pass head on or from above, but then your only option is from behind because your gonna have to catch back up after that first pass.  Not good with a bomber with a good defence.

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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2007, 09:56:50 AM »
HE219 will fly under the bombers once!!

game over.

thats if those upward firing 30mm guns really work--lol
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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2007, 10:04:45 AM »
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400mph is slow compared to most fighters but with a bomber you have to consider how hard it would be to attack them.  Most of our buffs are traveling around the 200mph mark


In this game I've YET to find a bomber (other than one rare instance) that was flying that slow. More often than not, they travel at 270 or faster. That's significantly faster than a mere "200" and makes all the difference in the world. Trust me. I've probably shot down thousands of bombers in this game.

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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2007, 10:19:47 AM »
oops, I meant to say 250mph, sorry about that.  I also should have said 400mph is slow compared to SOME fighters.

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« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2007, 10:43:34 AM »
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Trust me. I've probably shot down thousands of bombers in this game.



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« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2007, 03:22:26 PM »
400 mph is either slow... or extremely fast, depending on the altitude which the aircraft hits it.

IMXLR8N, loved the way you cleverly disguised your multiple America plane request with one for a German plane first :D
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« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2007, 05:47:31 PM »
He219 never hit 400mph in service.  Heinkle claimed it could do 419mph in order to sell it to the RLM, but it never came close in practice.
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« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2007, 09:20:02 PM »
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400 mph is either slow... or extremely fast, depending on the altitude which the aircraft hits it.

IMXLR8N, loved the way you cleverly disguised your multiple America plane request with one for a German plane first :D



Well, I'm a big fan of planes other than American iron. The Arrow was the biggest one I could think of and that wasn't my whole list. I was just trying to spark a "If Santa Clause existed" scenario and see what other people wished they could have. I didn't realize that HTC had a "must see combat" clause, but it makes sense in the realm of the game.

I guess I'm just fascinated with how much technology advanced by war's end. Started off with piston fighters barely reaching 500mph and open fuselage bombers and ended with jet fighters and pressurized bombers with remotely operated turrets.

I'm not holding my breath and hoping for an Arrow or Bearcat, but one could dream right? I'd also have to agree with how high the ENY would have to be on a F8F, but you gotta admit that a climb (after a run of 115 feet) of 10,000 feet in 94 seconds would be pretty fun.

So, since I've seen a few lists, I'd still like to see what they'd like to be able to fly (within the realm of the game) if you could have your dream aircraft. No F-15 or P-51 with sidewinder requests.... :D

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« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2007, 09:54:19 PM »
Bearcat will never be put in the game, it never saw combat. Im a huge lufttard but even I dont think the Do 335 should be in the game. I dont know alot about it but I do know none were in squad use. As krusty said it may have seen combat, but any german plane that up'd at that time was attacked. (It was kind od a trail by fire)

I agree with most of Karnak's list. I only see one that I dont like (we all know the one)
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« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2007, 10:37:22 PM »
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HE219 will fly under the bombers once!!

game over.

 


I would be happy if we could just have schrage musik for the 110 to play around with.

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« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2007, 10:44:26 PM »
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Good List Evenhaim!


IMXLR8N, Bearcat never saw combat in WWII, that puts it outside the realm of potential planes right there. Plus if you did add it, it would have to be highly perked or it would unbalance things. So why bother?

Night fighters were a very minor minority compared to the vast number of planes that actually flew and saw combat. Plus you can't have a night fighter without having at least 8 hours of darkness in which to go hunt. Currently people get hugely upset about 20 minutes of dusk. Who's going to pay to play in 8 hours of darkness? See what that does to your nightfighters? Again, shoulder shrug, why bother?  

DO335 Arrow, hmmm ok, late war plane, very few in production.
I guess after ever other plane that has been asked for BEFORE the arrow is in the game I'd be ok with adding it.

But I wouldn't hold your breath waiting.

There is a very big list of badly needed planes. You didn't include any of them at all, just late war monsters. Sorry but AH has enough of those at the moment.


ty i agree

but we need that update already my b25 keeps getting fuel hits and they need to fix damage model on her XD
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« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2007, 01:49:42 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_produced_aircraft

This is a good place to start looking for aircraft we need in AH (the World War II ones of course, i am not asking for a Cessna ;))
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