Author Topic: Hitech, what about this idea? (Read 2902 times)

hammer · « **Reply #45 on:** June 13, 2007, 12:03:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Hammer, if they are in another arena they won't affect your ENY limitations. They won't inflate country numbers with "empty slots" so to speak.

That's possible. It assumes that your country has a larger percentage participating in FT than the others, but possible. It's also possible that the force ratio would stay about the same, leaving ENY virtually unchanged.

Regards,

Hammer

Gianlupo · « **Reply #46 on:** June 13, 2007, 12:13:14 PM »

I didn't read the whole thread, but one thing I know for sure: I want my Fighter Town back. I want the big, endless, chaotic furball going on day and night.

So, in any shape, bring it back, please.

Krusty · « **Reply #47 on:** June 13, 2007, 12:17:58 PM »

Gian, you sick puppy!

Wait, do wolves have puppies or cubs?

Whatever!

Gianlupo · « **Reply #48 on:** June 13, 2007, 12:23:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Wait, do wolves have puppies or cubs?

I have none, right now, so you don't have to choose!

Raptor · « **Reply #49 on:** June 13, 2007, 12:49:27 PM »

I think FT in EW or MW would be loads of fun because less "uber cannon planes."
As for Krusty, you are going to have to realize that a lot of us just don't care about the war or what you have to say about us not caring. You think furballing endlessly is pointless? I think it is fun in that no 2 engagements are the exact same. On the other hand, I think winning the war is pointless. I could care less about country affiliation, actually I am never on the winning side of a war because I switch to whatever team has the most fights (usually the low number losing team)

Krusty · « **Reply #50 on:** June 13, 2007, 12:55:57 PM »

Again with folks calling me an anti-furballer.

Perhaps I just wasn't clear enough.

I'm all for it. I am a furballer. It just hurts your teammates in the MAs. You can find "mindless furballs" that are near a front line just as easily as FT, and yet doesn't shaft your teammates. You'll often find me near one of these.

At this point I'm tired of repeating myself, as nobody seems to understand wtf I'm typing anyway.

Lusche · « **Reply #51 on:** June 13, 2007, 12:58:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Again with folks calling me an anti-furballer.

Perhaps I just wasn't clear enough.

I'm all for it. I am a furballer. It just hurts your teammates in the MAs. You can find "mindless furballs" that are near a front line just as easily as FT, and yet doesn't shaft your teammates. You'll often find me near one of these.

At this point I'm tired of repeating myself, as nobody seems to understand wtf I'm typing anyway.

Maybe you should apply the last sentence to yourself. How can furballers "hurt" you, when they are part of every country?????

Krusty · « **Reply #52 on:** June 13, 2007, 01:03:17 PM »

Because usually the knits are outnumbered by a large amount, and usually is being ganged up on by both other countries (think back to the single arena environment from when we HAD the FT maps) and usually the folks we needed to keep it from being a gang****ping were in a "DON'T TELL ME HOW TO FLY!" defensive mood.

That's how they hurt their teammates. Imagine Leonidus trying to prepare for battle but half his men saying "Hey, man, we're all going to die, so we're gonna go do play poker over here, you can die how you like. See you in hell."

Seems to me you all think things happen equally across all 3 teams. It's almost never been that case, as far back as I can remember.

EDIT: P.S. If you don't understand I'm not going to enlighten you. Go about your business. Original post was about combining EW and MW into a FW "Furball War" (?) arena.

Kev367th · « **Reply #53 on:** June 13, 2007, 01:05:44 PM »

Well we might as well have -

A GV only arena - So they don't have to worry about getting egged in TT
A Buff only arena - So they can bomb in peace.

As well as a fightertown only arena.

Where does it end?

Krusty · « **Reply #54 on:** June 13, 2007, 01:09:37 PM »

Kev, the thing that sets a FT arena apart from your other suggestions is that folks in there WANT to fight.

Lusche · « **Reply #55 on:** June 13, 2007, 01:09:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Because usually the knits are outnumbered by a large amount, and usually is being ganged up on by both other countries (think back to the single arena environment from when we HAD the FT maps) and usually the folks we needed to keep it from being a gang****ping were in a "DON'T TELL ME HOW TO FLY!" defensive mood.

That's how they hurt their teammates. Imagine Leonidus trying to prepare for battle but half his men saying "Hey, man, we're all going to die, so we're gonna go do play poker over here, you can die how you like. See you in hell."

Seems to me you all think things happen equally across all 3 teams. It's almost never been that case, as far back as I can remember.

Sigh... but not only half of the knits are in FT. Half of the enemy is there too!
So with or without FT - the ratio is always the same!

120 rooks 120 bish 80 knits. Nits have 25% of arena population.
Now we assume 50% off all players are in FT. That would leave for "strategic play":
60 rooks 60 bish 40 knits. Hmm.. knits have still 25% of all players.

Now we assume there is a different FT arena. Half of each country goes there. So we have 60 rooks, 60 bish, 40 knits left. ... Still 25%

Krusty · « **Reply #56 on:** June 13, 2007, 01:17:03 PM »

Doesn't work that way...

[EDIT: Actually it's similar, but not the way you think, because you almost NEVER get all 3 teams evenly fighting each other, almost always the weaker team is ganged up upon, and often times that's the knits]

If there's 10 players on, knits have 25%, that's 2-3 players. If there's 100 players on, knits have only 25 (against a combined 75). Much worse. Assume there's 300 on, then there's only 75 knits against 225 enemies.

Percentages get WORSE (in effect) the larger the number is. Especially as enemy density per sector increases.

NoBaddy · « **Reply #57 on:** June 13, 2007, 01:23:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
Well we might as well have -

A GV only arena - So they don't have to worry about getting egged in TT
A Buff only arena - So they can bomb in peace.

As well as a fightertown only arena.

Where does it end?

Don't forget the PT boat only arena.

If EW/MW were done away with, I am not sure that Egohrt would be able to sue. He might find it difficult to call his lawyer. It's tough to see the keypad through all of the tears.

Raptor · « **Reply #58 on:** June 13, 2007, 03:21:16 PM »

Sometimes I just think Krusty disagrees for arguement's sake

Lusche · « **Reply #59 on:** June 13, 2007, 03:33:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Doesn't work that way...

[EDIT: Actually it's similar, but not the way you think, because you almost NEVER get all 3 teams evenly fighting each other, almost always the weaker team is ganged up upon, and often times that's the knits]

If there's 10 players on, knits have 25%, that's 2-3 players. If there's 100 players on, knits have only 25 (against a combined 75). Much worse. Assume there's 300 on, then there's only 75 knits against 225 enemies.

Percentages get WORSE (in effect) the larger the number is. Especially as enemy density per sector increases.

huh?

You want the FT to be in a seperate arena. You claim that would be better than being integrated in teh standard "win teh war arena"

But still: The absolute numbers would be the same!

One country being outnumbered 1-3 would suffer exact the same "disadvantge" wether the furballers are in FT on same map or in another arena. Absolute numbers - would be the same. Realative numbers: would be the same. ENY - would be the same.
There is NO benefit from removing those people. Other from "get those furballers out of my eyes!"